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Post by roki12 on Mar 26, 2021 14:31:06 GMT -5
The easy way to fill 4 teams is to not choose 18 players per team. But of course, that would be less $$$ for the club, and youth soccer seems to be more about the $$$ than the kids. Just an honest observation. So true, hatrick07. I also think a normal non-covid tryout year will enable Concorde to better allocate talent across teams. I don't think rosters this year were wildly efficient in some age groups. And I wouldn't rule out movement away from other clubs to Concorde, although that is impossible to predict. 18 players seems ridiculous even at older age groups. I understand that players get injured, and that some teams back in the day had several players who would be out for national team camps etc. But carrying such large rosters means 7 kids sit on the bench and some barely play 15 minutes. I wish they would have 4 subs max and if they need additional players pull in DP’s.
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Post by justwatching on Mar 26, 2021 14:46:28 GMT -5
I can easily see a regional re-alignments at both ECNL/ECRL once all announcements are published. Geographically makes sense for TN clubs to get pulled into the SE, I'd imagine TN parents would welcome that move opposed to hicks to Western NY! I think the B-Ham area clubs are becoming the x-factor... so goes them, so goes the regional alignments. Either way I agree with your theory on Rush. On the girls side, I do not believe TN can be aligned in the southeast because girls HS soccer is in the fall. The boys can be with Georgia & Alabama though. TN boys are already in the SE ECNL conference www.ecnlboys.com/southeast-conference/
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 27, 2021 11:26:42 GMT -5
This is so wrong! It gives them such a recruiting advantage.
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Mar 27, 2021 13:12:26 GMT -5
Post by soccernotfootball on Mar 27, 2021 13:12:26 GMT -5
This is so wrong! It gives them such a recruiting advantage. How is it wrong? Yes, it would give them an advantage but how and why is it wrong?
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Post by soccernoleuk on Mar 27, 2021 13:18:01 GMT -5
I don't have an issue with Concorde having 2 teams in each league, IF they can field competitive teams. If any of their teams have trouble competing then they should be dropped from the league.
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Mar 27, 2021 13:33:02 GMT -5
Post by soccernotfootball on Mar 27, 2021 13:33:02 GMT -5
I don't have an issue with Concorde having 2 teams in each league, IF they can field competitive teams. If any of their teams have trouble competing then they should be dropped from the league. Agreed. A quick scan of ECNL, SCCL Club, and P1 standings indicate they should be able to field 2 competitive teams for each league now. If the announcement recruits additional talent, they will be in an even better position to do so.
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Mar 27, 2021 14:56:47 GMT -5
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Post by coffee on Mar 27, 2021 14:56:47 GMT -5
This is so wrong! It gives them such a recruiting advantage. What’s really interesting is what they don’t say. To me this looks very much like confirmation that other clubs in the SE will be fielding more than one girls ECRL team per age. It’s obvious that CF will be very clear about, and draw attention to the fact if able. It is a big recruiting competitive advantage and they’re right to capitalize on that type of differentiator whenever possible. I could be wrong, but I think CF just announced that UFA will have ECRL teams at Fowler _and_ Norcross.
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Mar 27, 2021 15:44:37 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 27, 2021 15:44:37 GMT -5
This is so wrong! It gives them such a recruiting advantage. What’s really interesting is what they don’t say. To me this looks very much like confirmation that other clubs in the SE will be fielding more than one girls ECRL team per age. It’s obvious that CF will be very clear about, and draw attention to the fact if able. It is a big recruiting competitive advantage and they’re right to capitalize on that type of differentiator whenever possible. I could be wrong, but I think CF just announced that UFA will have ECRL teams at Fowler _and_ Norcross. This is just boys so far. While I expect that girls will follow at some point, this announcement is only for boys.
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Mar 27, 2021 15:51:20 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 27, 2021 15:51:20 GMT -5
Will be interesting if multiple clubs land multiple teams in regional league. I do not think a single club should have multiple ecnl teams unless they are trully ran out of distinct locations. It really gives them an advantage by being able to recruit kids to play on 2 teams vs one.
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Mar 27, 2021 16:01:02 GMT -5
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Post by coffee on Mar 27, 2021 16:01:02 GMT -5
This is just boys so far. While I expect that girls will follow at some point, this announcement is only for boys. Right you are! Can’t believe I did that. *face palm*. Haha. I think that was a case of seeing what you want to see. I spoke too soon. There will be trouble in UFA girls if it doesn’t happen that way.
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Mar 28, 2021 21:43:21 GMT -5
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Post by justwatching on Mar 28, 2021 21:43:21 GMT -5
Will be interesting if multiple clubs land multiple teams in regional league. I do not think a single club should have multiple ecnl teams unless they are trully ran out of distinct locations. It really gives them an advantage by being able to recruit kids to play on 2 teams vs one. Serious question. How is it an advantage to have the two ECRL spots? It is still a 4th level team. Maybe you have an advantage to pull kids that would normally play SCCL-2 or 3 away from other clubs but why would anyone that wants to play ECRL and can make one of ECRL spots for a club with only one team (2nd overall team) go to the 4th Concorde team?
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Mar 29, 2021 6:27:32 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 29, 2021 6:27:32 GMT -5
Will be interesting if multiple clubs land multiple teams in regional league. I do not think a single club should have multiple ecnl teams unless they are trully ran out of distinct locations. It really gives them an advantage by being able to recruit kids to play on 2 teams vs one. Serious question. How is it an advantage to have the two ECRL spots? It is still a 4th level team. Maybe you have an advantage to pull kids that would normally play SCCL-2 or 3 away from other clubs but why would anyone that wants to play ECRL and can make one of ECRL spots for a club with only one team (2nd overall team) go to the 4th Concorde team? Who cares if you are labeled as the 4th overall team. You have a chance to played the 3rd overall team and 2nd team for most clubs. If you beat them, you are what your record says you are. Not to mention, it gives the ability to have some of those teams located at other branches which will draw kids to those branches. Say Concorde puts an ECRL club at north, if nth Milton, ambush and Santos don’t have ECRL, where will those players head?
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Mar 29, 2021 7:46:06 GMT -5
Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 29, 2021 7:46:06 GMT -5
Yea, exactly, the carrot is what attracts players -- players will lean towards ECNL then ECNL regional league over SCCL on the boys side. It will help concorde as these kids grow and mature, they will have a deeper player pool to grab from, where other clubs will have to try to recruit kids over.
It reminds me somewhat like the days when clubs would earn the RPL spot with their girls ECNL team and then there was no roster continuity requirements and they essentially had 36 spots to recruit players -- come here and play ecnl or rpl which both were obviously better than Athena A.
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Mar 29, 2021 8:18:05 GMT -5
Post by justwatching on Mar 29, 2021 8:18:05 GMT -5
Sure I get that it will take attract kids that would have normally played SCCL-P1 or 2 which I suppose will be the new SCCL. I just don't see kids that can make ECRL as a clubs second team wanting to be on a fourth team especially if you have some aspirations of playing in college. I am also assuming pretty much all the SCCL-C clubs will have ECRL. If that is not the case then yes I agree that it would be an advantage for Concorde to be able to take players from those SCCL clubs that don't have ECRL.
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Mar 29, 2021 8:31:19 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 29, 2021 8:31:19 GMT -5
Sure I get that it will take attract kids that would have normally played SCCL-P1 or 2 which I suppose will be the new SCCL. I just don't see kids that can make ECRL as a clubs second team wanting to be on a fourth team especially if you have some aspirations of playing in college. I am also assuming pretty much all the SCCL-C clubs will have ECRL. If that is not the case then yes I agree that it would be an advantage for Concorde to be able to take players from those SCCL clubs that don't have ECRL. I don’t think that ECRL=SCCL. The only clubs to announce ECRL are clubs with ECNL teams. We are witnessing the splitting of soccer into 2 camps—MLS Next and GA v ECNL. The real question is where are the medium size clubs going.
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Mar 29, 2021 8:45:21 GMT -5
Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 29, 2021 8:45:21 GMT -5
so far we know Concorde UFA AFU NASA
That's everyone from Georgia
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Mar 29, 2021 8:46:51 GMT -5
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Post by soccer3 on Mar 29, 2021 8:46:51 GMT -5
Sure I get that it will take attract kids that would have normally played SCCL-P1 or 2 which I suppose will be the new SCCL. I just don't see kids that can make ECRL as a clubs second team wanting to be on a fourth team especially if you have some aspirations of playing in college. I am also assuming pretty much all the SCCL-C clubs will have ECRL. If that is not the case then yes I agree that it would be an advantage for Concorde to be able to take players from those SCCL clubs that don't have ECRL. I don’t think that ECRL=SCCL. The only clubs to announce ECRL are clubs with ECNL teams. We are witnessing the splitting of soccer into 2 camps—MLS Next and GA v ECNL. The real question is where are the medium size clubs going. I dont think ECRL will be anything other than the ECNL clubs. No way they let Roswell/ other medium sized clubs in. Will be interesting to see what happens to them.
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Mar 29, 2021 9:14:57 GMT -5
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Post by cleansheet on Mar 29, 2021 9:14:57 GMT -5
so far we know Concorde UFA AFU NASA That's everyone from Georgia GSA is a go for ECRL but I haven’t seen NASA comment on it
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Mar 29, 2021 9:15:44 GMT -5
Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 29, 2021 9:15:44 GMT -5
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Mar 29, 2021 10:27:36 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 29, 2021 10:27:36 GMT -5
I don’t think that ECRL=SCCL. The only clubs to announce ECRL are clubs with ECNL teams. We are witnessing the splitting of soccer into 2 camps—MLS Next and GA v ECNL. The real question is where are the medium size clubs going. I dont think ECRL will be anything other than the ECNL clubs. No way they let Roswell/ other medium sized clubs in. Will be interesting to see what happens to them. Why do you say that? Most regions are putting the smaller clubs in ECRL. Look at Florida for example. Besides it makes total sense. The point of ECRL is to develop player pool but also to analyze smaller clubs to see if they are worthy of promotion. And it is supposed to be more regional/less travel. It would make sense that Georgia is GA/AL/SC and includes SCCL teams that are worthy.
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Mar 29, 2021 10:40:39 GMT -5
Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 29, 2021 10:40:39 GMT -5
I dont think ECRL will be anything other than the ECNL clubs. No way they let Roswell/ other medium sized clubs in. Will be interesting to see what happens to them. Why do you say that? Most regions are putting the smaller clubs in ECRL. Look at Florida for example. Besides it makes total sense. The point of ECRL is to develop player pool but also to analyze smaller clubs to see if they are worthy of promotion. And it is supposed to be more regional/less travel. It would make sense that Georgia is GA/AL/SC and includes SCCL teams that are worthy. I think it makes sense also, not just to analyze smaller clubs, similar to what you mention -- but the easiest way to identify and recruit talent in my opinion is to play them in your league.
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Mar 29, 2021 10:42:31 GMT -5
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Post by soccer3 on Mar 29, 2021 10:42:31 GMT -5
I dont think ECRL will be anything other than the ECNL clubs. No way they let Roswell/ other medium sized clubs in. Will be interesting to see what happens to them. Why do you say that? Most regions are putting the smaller clubs in ECRL. Look at Florida for example. Besides it makes total sense. The point of ECRL is to develop player pool but also to analyze smaller clubs to see if they are worthy of promotion. And it is supposed to be more regional/less travel. It would make sense that Georgia is GA/AL/SC and includes SCCL teams that are worthy. No way they let other clubs put that patch on and try to compete. As far as travel it's a Regional league which I'm sure they will charge more for so AL/GA/TN/SC/ would make sense. Basically the "new" RPL. Keeps the other clubs capped at SCCL and kills competition.
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Mar 29, 2021 10:43:59 GMT -5
Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Mar 29, 2021 10:43:59 GMT -5
I dont think ECRL will be anything other than the ECNL clubs. No way they let Roswell/ other medium sized clubs in. Will be interesting to see what happens to them. Why do you say that? Most regions are putting the smaller clubs in ECRL. Look at Florida for example. Besides it makes total sense. The point of ECRL is to develop player pool but also to analyze smaller clubs to see if they are worthy of promotion. And it is supposed to be more regional/less travel. It would make sense that Georgia is GA/AL/SC and includes SCCL teams that are worthy. Agreed - that was exactly my thought. Unless there is something else at play here like money.
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 29, 2021 10:46:59 GMT -5
I dont think ECRL will be anything other than the ECNL clubs. No way they let Roswell/ other medium sized clubs in. Will be interesting to see what happens to them. Why do you say that? Most regions are putting the smaller clubs in ECRL. Look at Florida for example. Besides it makes total sense. The point of ECRL is to develop player pool but also to analyze smaller clubs to see if they are worthy of promotion. And it is supposed to be more regional/less travel. It would make sense that Georgia is GA/AL/SC and includes SCCL teams that are worthy. I think (and hope) that they allow Roswell and Ambush into ECRL. That would make a minimum of 8 Metro Atlanta teams (2 Concorde, UFA, AFU, GSA, NASA, Ambush and Roswell) and maybe more depending on how many clubs get 2 teams. That would help to reduce travel and expand the number of teams. Throw in 3 from Tennessee, 3 from South Carolina, and 1 from Alabama and that is a 15 team league. Please each team once per season and now you have 14 games each season.
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Mar 29, 2021 11:43:18 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Mar 29, 2021 11:43:18 GMT -5
I don’t think that ECRL=SCCL. The only clubs to announce ECRL are clubs with ECNL teams. We are witnessing the splitting of soccer into 2 camps—MLS Next and GA v ECNL. The real question is where are the medium size clubs going. I dont think ECRL will be anything other than the ECNL clubs. No way they let Roswell/ other medium sized clubs in. Will be interesting to see what happens to them. Most smaller/medium clubs aren’t going Ecnl/ECRL because Campbell at GSA is vetoing any ECNL additions from Atlanta (including Tophat). Gsa is scared that anymore ECNL clubs will threaten their dwindling numbers. They don’t want to be AFU, they want to keep AFU where they are, on the bottom.
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Mar 29, 2021 11:54:08 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Mar 29, 2021 11:54:08 GMT -5
Why do you say that? Most regions are putting the smaller clubs in ECRL. Look at Florida for example. Besides it makes total sense. The point of ECRL is to develop player pool but also to analyze smaller clubs to see if they are worthy of promotion. And it is supposed to be more regional/less travel. It would make sense that Georgia is GA/AL/SC and includes SCCL teams that are worthy. I think (and hope) that they allow Roswell and Ambush into ECRL. That would make a minimum of 8 Metro Atlanta teams (2 Concorde, UFA, AFU, GSA, NASA, Ambush and Roswell) and maybe more depending on how many clubs get 2 teams. That would help to reduce travel and expand the number of teams. Throw in 3 from Tennessee, 3 from South Carolina, and 1 from Alabama and that is a 15 team league. Please each team once per season and now you have 14 games each season. That will never happen. CF- 2, UFA, afu, gsa, cesa, sc United, surf, Tenn SC would most likely be the SE division. 10, maybe 11 teams tops. Busa, Fc alliance, Chattanooga red wolves aren’t big enough to keep ecnl, ECRL and SCCL. They’d keep SCCL as playing third teams would be more competitive and the travel to Atlanta is a lot easier then traveling to SC.
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Mar 29, 2021 13:00:18 GMT -5
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Post by diamondmid on Mar 29, 2021 13:00:18 GMT -5
I think (and hope) that they allow Roswell and Ambush into ECRL. That would make a minimum of 8 Metro Atlanta teams (2 Concorde, UFA, AFU, GSA, NASA, Ambush and Roswell) and maybe more depending on how many clubs get 2 teams. That would help to reduce travel and expand the number of teams. Throw in 3 from Tennessee, 3 from South Carolina, and 1 from Alabama and that is a 15 team league. Please each team once per season and now you have 14 games each season. That will never happen. CF- 2, UFA, afu, gsa, cesa, sc United, surf, Tenn SC would most likely be the SE division. 10, maybe 11 teams tops. Busa, Fc alliance, Chattanooga red wolves aren’t big enough to keep ecnl, ECRL and SCCL. They’d keep SCCL as playing third teams would be more competitive and the travel to Atlanta is a lot easier then traveling to SC. IMO it is possible for Santos and Ambush to get in. Looking at FL and SC, they gave the ECNL clubs plus a few with ECNL playing in the Regional leagues. So there’s a precedent there.
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Mar 29, 2021 13:09:36 GMT -5
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Post by footyfan on Mar 29, 2021 13:09:36 GMT -5
I think (and hope) that they allow Roswell and Ambush into ECRL. That would make a minimum of 8 Metro Atlanta teams (2 Concorde, UFA, AFU, GSA, NASA, Ambush and Roswell) and maybe more depending on how many clubs get 2 teams. That would help to reduce travel and expand the number of teams. Throw in 3 from Tennessee, 3 from South Carolina, and 1 from Alabama and that is a 15 team league. Please each team once per season and now you have 14 games each season. That will never happen. CF- 2, UFA, afu, gsa, cesa, sc United, surf, Tenn SC would most likely be the SE division. 10, maybe 11 teams tops. Busa, Fc alliance, Chattanooga red wolves aren’t big enough to keep ecnl, ECRL and SCCL. They’d keep SCCL as playing third teams would be more competitive and the travel to Atlanta is a lot easier then traveling to SC. I'd think the announcement of the shuffling of ECNL SE/ECNL MA clubs and their ECRLs would have leaked by now?
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Mar 29, 2021 13:14:11 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Mar 29, 2021 13:14:11 GMT -5
That will never happen. CF- 2, UFA, afu, gsa, cesa, sc United, surf, Tenn SC would most likely be the SE division. 10, maybe 11 teams tops. Busa, Fc alliance, Chattanooga red wolves aren’t big enough to keep ecnl, ECRL and SCCL. They’d keep SCCL as playing third teams would be more competitive and the travel to Atlanta is a lot easier then traveling to SC. IMO it is possible for Santos and Ambush to get in. Looking at FL and SC, they gave the ECNL clubs plus a few with ECNL playing in the Regional leagues. So there’s a precedent there. Oh it would be possible on paper. But not with the soccer politics in Atlanta. Like I stated in another post, Campbell at GSA will veto anymore additions to Ecnl/ECRL in the metro area. Other wise Rush and Ambush would have been in for sure, though sounds like Santos has decided to go the MLSNext/GAL route.
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Post by greenmonkey on Mar 29, 2021 13:38:49 GMT -5
Dear HateAllTheseChanges
Can I borrow your screen name ... AGAIN ... YES for the 8th year in a row?
(I think that's right - counting the age change, club mergers, DA add, TPDL, SCCL create, ECNL add, DA drop, NPL drop, ECRL create)
Also does anyone have an inside connection to the entertainment industry here in ATL. I have a great reality tv show idea! LOL
#SoccerLeaguesGoneWild
Thanks!
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