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Apr 7, 2021 18:51:58 GMT -5
Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Apr 7, 2021 18:51:58 GMT -5
I’m confused. So where do the UFA SCCL teams fit into all this on the girls side? My daughter will be on the U18-19 level this year and was on SCCL-P1 last year. I don't think it will change anything. I think UFA will drop out of NPL and the NPL teams at Forsyth will all play ECRL now. Norcross will still have the SCCL-C teams and Forsyth's Red teams will be P1. They may make an exception or two at certain age groups but that's generally what I think will happen.
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Apr 7, 2021 19:36:20 GMT -5
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Post by soccer3 on Apr 7, 2021 19:36:20 GMT -5
So looks like Roswell and Ambush get picked apart by big clubs with ECNL/ECRL and are stuck in SCCL which is now very weak. Redstar/ Concorde probably moves into ECRL and out of NL further killing off GA Soccer. Maybe Roswell and Ambush join Inter in DPL? Is that even any better than SCCL?
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Apr 7, 2021 20:31:08 GMT -5
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Post by reading1soccer on Apr 7, 2021 20:31:08 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 7, 2021 21:02:30 GMT -5
Well Sergio taking both the U19 and U16 teams hurt a lot and that was just this year. But still Concorde's true current 4th team was playing SCCL-P 2 in most cases because team 1 ECNL team 2 SCCL-C team 3 SCCL-P 1 and team 4 SCCL-P 2. The second ECNL team was SSA in most age groups. Adding Red Star will help if they plan to give them a team in ECRL but I just think this is a build it and they will come scenario. If CF has 2 ECNL and 2 ECRL they will draw more players away from other places and UFA Norcross would have been able to draw players instead and not lose them to AFU, GSA and CF. Now starting U13 they will lose them because no ECRL and the surrounding clubs have it. UFA Norcross was playing against CF 2nd teams in SCCL-C. If you went back one year to look at standings you would have seen a better showing from Norcross. Sergio really hurt that branch taking their two strongest teams (at the time). There was additional fall out at other ages from his defection from what I was told by a UFA Norcross person in the know. As you know, both my kids are graduates of UFA-N and spent their entire youth careers there sans one final year at the Fowler location, so I have a soft spot for Norcross. You are correct in all your statements and deductions. I will only add this one caveat, I think UFA HQ failed by not bumping SM to Branch DOC when RS left and instead brought in JS who in my opinion was not as qualified and knowledgeable of the branch thereby forcing SM to search for greener pastures. I can't remember which team, but I think he won the SCCL Nationals with one of those teams and so the love for him was deep and they were going to move to Tibet with him regardless. Regardless, I think it's business as usual for UFA. Fowler will get ECNL & ECRL(replacing NPL) and Norcross will get SCCL-C. I wonder when the new TPDL model will be released 🙉🙊🙈 p.s. Can someone in the know explain to me what the real acronym is for the new regional league. I keep seeing ECNL Regional League so shouldn't it be Girls/Boys ERL? Was the ECRL moniker taken from the ECNL Carolina Regional League?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Apr 7, 2021 21:25:33 GMT -5
If you went back one year to look at standings you would have seen a better showing from Norcross. Sergio really hurt that branch taking their two strongest teams (at the time). There was additional fall out at other ages from his defection from what I was told by a UFA Norcross person in the know. As you know, both my kids are graduates of UFA-N and spent their entire youth careers there sans one final year at the Fowler location, so I have a soft spot for Norcross. You are correct in all your statements and deductions. I will only add this one caveat, I think UFA HQ failed by not bumping SM to Branch DOC when RS left and instead brought in JS who in my opinion was not as qualified and knowledgeable of the branch thereby forcing SM to search for greener pastures. I can't remember which team, but I think he won the SCCL Nationals with one of those teams and so the love for him was deep and they were going to move to Tibet with him regardless. Regardless, I think it's business as usual for UFA. Fowler will get ECNL & ECRL(replacing NPL) and Norcross will get SCCL-C. I wonder when the new TPDL model will be released 🙉🙊🙈 p.s. Can someone in the know explain to me what the real acronym is for the new regional league. I keep seeing ECNL Regional League so shouldn't it be Girls/Boys ERL? Was the ECRL moniker taken from the ECNL Carolina Regional League? Yes, Sergio won nationals with his 03's in summer of 2019. A really, really good team - most of those girls are now HS seniors and the ones we're friends with will be playing in college next year. I think officially it's "ECNL Regional" but it's been shortened to "ECRL".
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Apr 8, 2021 6:48:37 GMT -5
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Post by roki12 on Apr 8, 2021 6:48:37 GMT -5
At least on the girls side - there’s no way Concorde can go 5 deep and be competitive. It wasn’t even able to field a competitive top team in many age groups last year, let alone second team. Only club that has been able to do that before last year’s craziness is Tophat. Even then I’d say after the third sometimes fourth team the talent started to be spread thin. You're gonna have to help me understand this comment - their top girls' teams all play ECNL and all are in the top 3 in the standings at every age group except the U18/U19 composite. Yes Platinum does well. Premier does not do well in ECNL except for one or two age groups. Concorde does OK in SCCL, and dominates one or two age groups. SSA does just ok in NPL. Assuming they move up the best SCCL players to the Premiere team, that would significantly weaken the teams below. It would take a lot of new talent to make them as competitive as they are now.
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Apr 8, 2021 7:29:16 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 8, 2021 7:29:16 GMT -5
Yeah, there's a lot at play.
Girls: Frankly, we know Concorde's ECNL Platinum teams are cream of the crop in the state and do well nationally. Concorde's Premier ECNL teams will likely be little weaker next year, some of the existing ECNL Premier players will move to SSA's GAL teams. They will have to promote some SCCL-C players to ECNL Premier making their new ECRL Platinum teams weaker and move their SCCL-P1/P2 teams into ECRL Premier after promoting some of those players to the ECRL Platinum team. I think CF won one SCCL-C bracket. But I understand they're hoping to recruit...we will have to see how that goes. I don't know why anyone would pick a 2nd team in a league over a first team from another club (ECNL or ECRL). I doubt CF's Premier teams do particularly well next year, but will see.
Otherwise this is a good move. They should have moved the SC clubs into the Southeast division just to balance it out and create a 14-game home-and-away schedule for both leagues. FC Alliance had no business in this league, their SCCL-C teams were pretty atrocious. So our state is divided where 8 of the 9 biggest clubs in ECNL/GAL (I know Inter isn't in GAL yet...surely its just a matter of time).
ECNL Pyramid: AFU, Concorde, GSA, UFA GAL Pyramid: AFC, Inter, NTH, SSA
Does Roswell take their SCCL bracket winners and go back to GA Soccer/NL?
Good luck to everyone in their respective leagues.
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Apr 8, 2021 11:07:37 GMT -5
Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Apr 8, 2021 11:07:37 GMT -5
Yeah, there's a lot at play. Girls: Frankly, we know Concorde's ECNL Platinum teams are cream of the crop in the state and do well nationally. Concorde's Premier ECNL teams will likely be little weaker next year, some of the existing ECNL Premier players will move to SSA's GAL teams. They will have to promote some SCCL-C players to ECNL Premier making their new ECRL Platinum teams weaker and move their SCCL-P1/P2 teams into ECRL Premier after promoting some of those players to the ECRL Platinum team. I think CF won one SCCL-C bracket. But I understand they're hoping to recruit...we will have to see how that goes. I don't know why anyone would pick a 2nd team in a league over a first team from another club (ECNL or ECRL). I doubt CF's Premier teams do particularly well next year, but will see. Otherwise this is a good move. They should have moved the SC clubs into the Southeast division just to balance it out and create a 14-game home-and-away schedule for both leagues. FC Alliance had no business in this league, their SCCL-C teams were pretty atrocious. So our state is divided where 8 of the 9 biggest clubs in ECNL/GAL (I know Inter isn't in GAL yet...surely its just a matter of time). ECNL Pyramid: AFU, Concorde, GSA, UFA GAL Pyramid: AFC, Inter, NTH, SSA Does Roswell take their SCCL bracket winners and go back to GA Soccer/NL? Good luck to everyone in their respective leagues. Is it confirmed that Concorde will have 2 ECNL teams under their actual control (vs. prior years when the Premier team was really run by SSA?) Do they then have an ECRL team under each of those as well (which is how I read the above post)?
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Apr 8, 2021 11:33:06 GMT -5
Post by Whistledown on Apr 8, 2021 11:33:06 GMT -5
Yeah, there's a lot at play. Girls: Frankly, we know Concorde's ECNL Platinum teams are cream of the crop in the state and do well nationally. Concorde's Premier ECNL teams will likely be little weaker next year, some of the existing ECNL Premier players will move to SSA's GAL teams. They will have to promote some SCCL-C players to ECNL Premier making their new ECRL Platinum teams weaker and move their SCCL-P1/P2 teams into ECRL Premier after promoting some of those players to the ECRL Platinum team. I think CF won one SCCL-C bracket. But I understand they're hoping to recruit...we will have to see how that goes. I don't know why anyone would pick a 2nd team in a league over a first team from another club (ECNL or ECRL). I doubt CF's Premier teams do particularly well next year, but will see. Otherwise this is a good move. They should have moved the SC clubs into the Southeast division just to balance it out and create a 14-game home-and-away schedule for both leagues. FC Alliance had no business in this league, their SCCL-C teams were pretty atrocious. So our state is divided where 8 of the 9 biggest clubs in ECNL/GAL (I know Inter isn't in GAL yet...surely its just a matter of time). ECNL Pyramid: AFU, Concorde, GSA, UFA GAL Pyramid: AFC, Inter, NTH, SSA Does Roswell take their SCCL bracket winners and go back to GA Soccer/NL? Good luck to everyone in their respective leagues. Is it confirmed that Concorde will have 2 ECNL teams under their actual control (vs. prior years when the Premier team was really run by SSA?) Do they then have an ECRL team under each of those as well (which is how I read the above post)? Yes. They will have a platinum and premier ECRL team. Likely the Platinum ECRL will be Columbus for most of the age groups.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 8, 2021 11:53:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure why other clubs aren't fighting for this:
yes the jury is out on the ECNL regional league, but we all know most people gravitate towards trying to play in the "top" leagues.
Concorde now has 4 teams total in either ECNL or ECNL regional league - this is a distinct recruiting advantage, this ~ 72 players
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Post by diamondmid on Apr 8, 2021 12:48:00 GMT -5
I'm not sure why other clubs aren't fighting for this: yes the jury is out on the ECNL regional league, but we all know most people gravitate towards trying to play in the "top" leagues. Concorde now has 4 teams total in either ECNL or ECNL regional league - this is a distinct recruiting advantage, this ~ 72 players Fight what? Concorde laid the groundwork for this years ago. Additionally, other clubs can request/apply to add teams. Yes- Concorde gets an advantage by having 4 teams but there’s nothing stopping other teams from trying as well.
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Post by roki12 on Apr 8, 2021 14:39:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure why other clubs aren't fighting for this: yes the jury is out on the ECNL regional league, but we all know most people gravitate towards trying to play in the "top" leagues. Concorde now has 4 teams total in either ECNL or ECNL regional league - this is a distinct recruiting advantage, this ~ 72 players Fight what? Concorde laid the groundwork for this years ago. Additionally, other clubs can request/apply to add teams. Yes- Concorde gets an advantage by having 4 teams but there’s nothing stopping other teams from trying as well. Unless you’re one of the top girls clubs in the country. Then you get shut out of ECNL )
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Post by ncsoccerparent on Apr 9, 2021 7:17:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure why other clubs aren't fighting for this: yes the jury is out on the ECNL regional league, but we all know most people gravitate towards trying to play in the "top" leagues. Concorde now has 4 teams total in either ECNL or ECNL regional league - this is a distinct recruiting advantage, this ~ 72 players I think it is more of a recruiting disadvantage considering how many other area clubs have ECNL/GA soccer. Most of the players on a 3rd or 4th team don't desire to stay there. And we all know by U14 or U15 there isn't much (if any) movement from year to year within a club. A certain club in NC already had this setup with ECNL (2 ECNL teams, 2 ECNL-RL teams). What happens is a number of players from the 3rd and 4th teams bolt for a higher ECNL or GA team at other clubs.
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Post by newposter on Apr 9, 2021 12:13:49 GMT -5
By the u 14/15 age, Coaches know the top players as do the players. This is also when the top players move to the Big 5 clubs if they are not there. There is a reason these big clubs continue to outperform the others. The best want to challenge themselves by playing with and against the best.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 9, 2021 13:05:24 GMT -5
I think it would have been a good idea to get Roswell Santos to join/buy-in to the league. There would be even more incentive to play in ECRL than SCCL, as they would get access to the ECNL Open Cup as well as the US Club National Cup. If they want to make a good case for their club to get ECNL, this would have been a good place to start. However, I wonder if their relative dominance on the girls' side of SCCL may have been a threat to Concorde, especially given proximity.
ECNL NEEDS a proving ground and ECRL should be it. It should be much easier to get into ECRL than ECNL and it should be managed by ECNL HQ and not boards of local clubs, where there is an obvious conflict of interest.
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Post by 04gparent on Apr 9, 2021 13:12:27 GMT -5
I think it would have been a good idea to get Roswell Santos to join/buy-in to the league. There would be even more incentive to play in ECRL than SCCL, as they would get access to the ECNL Open Cup as well as the US Club National Cup. If they want to make a good case for their club to get ECNL, this would have been a good place to start. However, I wonder if their relative dominance on the girls' side of SCCL may have been a threat to Concorde, especially given proximity. ECNL NEEDS a proving ground and ECRL should be it. It should be much easier to get into ECRL than ECNL and it should be managed by ECNL HQ and not boards of local clubs, where there is an obvious conflict of interest. You actually think ECNL is currently deciding who should be added by seeing who performs well in ECRL? Wow, that is great marketing by them. Yes they are in the position of power in youth sports and can be very selective, but I dont think performance in ECRL is it. Maybe that should also use lack of performance in ECNL to remove some clubs...
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Apr 9, 2021 13:13:55 GMT -5
Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Apr 9, 2021 13:13:55 GMT -5
I think it would have been a good idea to get Roswell Santos to join/buy-in to the league. There would be even more incentive to play in ECRL than SCCL, as they would get access to the ECNL Open Cup as well as the US Club National Cup. If they want to make a good case for their club to get ECNL, this would have been a good place to start. However, I wonder if their relative dominance on the girls' side of SCCL may have been a threat to Concorde, especially given proximity. ECNL NEEDS a proving ground and ECRL should be it. It should be much easier to get into ECRL than ECNL and it should be managed by ECNL HQ and not boards of local clubs, where there is an obvious conflict of interest. It was mentioned on this board at some point that GSA is blocking any new Atlanta metro clubs from getting into ECNL/ECRL. Also heard this from a coach who's well-connected.
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Post by justhavefun on Apr 9, 2021 14:27:57 GMT -5
My daughter plays at GSA and I think is always been the perspective that GSA & Concord are ECNL What I am curious to see is on the boys side if a UFA and or NASA jump to MLS Next what happens to ECNL- Boys. If you add UFA & NASA to AU & LSA that clearly trumps ECNL with GSA, Concord and AFU. No?
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Post by unitedwestand on Apr 9, 2021 14:38:38 GMT -5
I think it would have been a good idea to get Roswell Santos to join/buy-in to the league. There would be even more incentive to play in ECRL than SCCL, as they would get access to the ECNL Open Cup as well as the US Club National Cup. If they want to make a good case for their club to get ECNL, this would have been a good place to start. However, I wonder if their relative dominance on the girls' side of SCCL may have been a threat to Concorde, especially given proximity. ECNL NEEDS a proving ground and ECRL should be it. It should be much easier to get into ECRL than ECNL and it should be managed by ECNL HQ and not boards of local clubs, where there is an obvious conflict of interest. You can't seriously believe that these Big Clubs are scared of the smaller ones. The smaller clubs top teams are playing the Bug Clubs 2nd and 3rd teams. Don't believe the hype. No one's leaving GSA, Tophat, Concorde, SSA to go to Roswell. It's just not realistic but I understand that people want every club playing the same level of soccer. But I just don't buy that narrative. None of the big clubs fear roswell or LSA or the smaller clubs.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 9, 2021 14:41:46 GMT -5
I think it would have been a good idea to get Roswell Santos to join/buy-in to the league. There would be even more incentive to play in ECRL than SCCL, as they would get access to the ECNL Open Cup as well as the US Club National Cup. If they want to make a good case for their club to get ECNL, this would have been a good place to start. However, I wonder if their relative dominance on the girls' side of SCCL may have been a threat to Concorde, especially given proximity. ECNL NEEDS a proving ground and ECRL should be it. It should be much easier to get into ECRL than ECNL and it should be managed by ECNL HQ and not boards of local clubs, where there is an obvious conflict of interest. You actually think ECNL is currently deciding who should be added by seeing who performs well in ECRL? Wow, that is great marketing by them. Yes they are in the position of power in youth sports and can be very selective, but I dont think performance in ECRL is it. Maybe that should also use lack of performance in ECNL to remove some clubs... This was brought up last year as Legends and Beach and others were left out of ECNL in the southwest. They were apparently told if they did well in ECRL they would be let back in this year and they did let two of the 4 back in. Also in articles regarding Oklahoma Energy and other Midwest/frontier clubs ECNL was quoted as saying they did well in ECRL so they were allowing entry into ECNL. As an aside GA is doing the same with DPL. It actually makes sense. Now whether they will ever demote/relegate out of ECNL or GA based on poor performance I just don't know, but I doubt it will happen anytime soon
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Apr 9, 2021 15:38:01 GMT -5
Post by soccernotfootball on Apr 9, 2021 15:38:01 GMT -5
My daughter plays at GSA and I think is always been the perspective that GSA & Concord are ECNL What I am curious to see is on the boys side if a UFA and or NASA jump to MLS Next what happens to ECNL- Boys. If you add UFA & NASA to AU & LSA that clearly trumps ECNL with GSA, Concord and AFU. No? I'd be surprised if both UFA and NASA jump to MLS Next. Perhaps one... but not both. Also, if either or both did, what makes you think they lose ECNL? Perhaps they move their first teams to MLS Next and have the second teams play ECNL (similar to the previous year's DA/ENCL structure). I'm not sure how competitive clubs other than AU are in MLS. Does anyone know how SSA, LSA, or Inter have done? I've heard Inter haven't won a game - no word on the others. So, no... I don't think it would trump ECNL - at least not yet.
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Apr 9, 2021 16:24:03 GMT -5
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Post by justhavefun on Apr 9, 2021 16:24:03 GMT -5
You might be right ( probably are) that UFA and NASA will not go to MLS Next, at least anytime soon. But if they did that would most definitely be a blow to ECNL -Boys. AU pretty much dominated in the Concord tournament a few weeks ago beating up on their ECNL opponents, and I have heard that the LSA (08 boys) beat AU twice this year. So I think you can arguably say AU & LSA are two of the top boys teams in Georgia and then add UFA and NASA. That’s four real good clubs. Who knows though.
Sometimes when you focus so much on one league and trying to keeps others out, ( i.e NTH ) you can’t see the real competition coming. Why wouldn’t “MLS” or MLS like not try to enter girls soccer?
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Apr 9, 2021 17:11:02 GMT -5
Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 9, 2021 17:11:02 GMT -5
If MLS tiers the next league with an MLS only tier, no way NASA/UFA goes near it now they could be sold a bill of goods and told "no, we have no intentions of creating a tiered approach" and then bam MLS tiers it.....
call me crazy but I also think concorde, nasa, and concorde leadership at this point would consult one another, and all jump or not.
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Apr 9, 2021 19:51:59 GMT -5
Post by newguy on Apr 9, 2021 19:51:59 GMT -5
I think it would have been a good idea to get Roswell Santos to join/buy-in to the league. There would be even more incentive to play in ECRL than SCCL, as they would get access to the ECNL Open Cup as well as the US Club National Cup. If they want to make a good case for their club to get ECNL, this would have been a good place to start. However, I wonder if their relative dominance on the girls' side of SCCL may have been a threat to Concorde, especially given proximity. ECNL NEEDS a proving ground and ECRL should be it. It should be much easier to get into ECRL than ECNL and it should be managed by ECNL HQ and not boards of local clubs, where there is an obvious conflict of interest. You can't seriously believe that these Big Clubs are scared of the smaller ones. The smaller clubs top teams are playing the Bug Clubs 2nd and 3rd teams. Don't believe the hype. No one's leaving GSA, Tophat, Concorde, SSA to go to Roswell. It's just not realistic but I understand that people want every club playing the same level of soccer. But I just don't buy that narrative. None of the big clubs fear roswell or LSA or the smaller clubs. As someone new trying to figure all this out is there a clear line on boys and girls side of what are the “Big Clubs”. I’ve seen big 5 and big 6 both referenced.
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Apr 9, 2021 20:21:54 GMT -5
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Post by justhavefun on Apr 9, 2021 20:21:54 GMT -5
If MLS tiers the next league with an MLS only tier, no way NASA/UFA goes near it now they could be sold a bill of goods and told "no, we have no intentions of creating a tiered approach" and then bam MLS tiers it..... call me crazy but I also think concorde, nasa, and concorde leadership at this point would consult one another, and all jump or not.
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Apr 9, 2021 20:25:12 GMT -5
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Post by justhavefun on Apr 9, 2021 20:25:12 GMT -5
I don’t understand what you mean by “ tiers”
There are other clubs outside Georgia that have their top team play MLS - Next and second etc , play in another league. please explain what you mean- thank you.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 9, 2021 20:27:25 GMT -5
You can't seriously believe that these Big Clubs are scared of the smaller ones. The smaller clubs top teams are playing the Bug Clubs 2nd and 3rd teams. Don't believe the hype. No one's leaving GSA, Tophat, Concorde, SSA to go to Roswell. It's just not realistic but I understand that people want every club playing the same level of soccer. But I just don't buy that narrative. None of the big clubs fear roswell or LSA or the smaller clubs. As someone new trying to figure all this out is there a clear line on boys and girls side of what are the “Big Clubs”. I’ve seen big 5 and big 6 both referenced. Concorde NASA/Tophat UFA GSA SSA AFU (the line of big 5/6) Concorde, Tophat/NASA, UFA, GSA and SSA are the biggest clubs. AFU has ECNL boys and girls but has been smaller in recent years than the others. For girls Tophat is the best historically with Concorde a very close second. This may not be true going forward with Tophat not having ECNL (has GA) but still is higher in the rankings at the moment. GSA and UFA are next and then SSA. AFU is usually a distant last based on quality of talent and placement of teams in ECNL, but they do have ECNL and are a good club overall. For boys Concorde is likely the best (not including Atlanta United) with UFA also very strong and GSA and NASA too. Seems to me that the boys clubs seem more even but I don't have a boy so that is just what I hear.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 9, 2021 22:10:05 GMT -5
I don’t understand what you mean by “ tiers” There are other clubs outside Georgia that have their top team play MLS - Next and second etc , play in another league. please explain what you mean- thank you. Instead of trying to explain it, think of the previously run US Soccer Developmental Academy(DA), the tiered system was implemented in the waning days/years of the league. Here are some references to give you an idea of what folks are talking 'bout www.soccerwire.com/news/u-s-soccer-splits-boys-da-u-18-19-age-group-into-2-divisions/
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 9, 2021 22:18:29 GMT -5
If MLS tiers the next league with an MLS only tier, no way NASA/UFA goes near it now they could be sold a bill of goods and told "no, we have no intentions of creating a tiered approach" and then bam MLS tiers it..... call me crazy but I also think concorde, nasa, and concorde leadership at this point would consult one another, and all jump or not. So, over some tea, it may have be spilled that a couple of local Big 5 clubs have been given the MLS-Next license. However, much like you can do with some college admissions, it can be deferred for up to a year before MLS-Next will revoke. They will reassess in under a year and give a go or no-go. Does that mean they will walk away from ECNL Boys, nope not saying that and frankly I think that would be foolish on their part as long as they are not required to... 🙊🙈🙉 Additionally, I've also heard the MLS academies are trying to figure out how to create an MLS only league play within the MLS-Next infrastructure. No clarification from folks yet if that will just be the replacement for or in addition to the traditional MLS GA Cup at U15s and 17s only...
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Apr 9, 2021 22:27:18 GMT -5
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Post by justhavefun on Apr 9, 2021 22:27:18 GMT -5
I guess it’s not as big a secret as I thought 😉.... 🤫 it’s all about ECNL
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