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ECRL
Mar 25, 2021 21:20:20 GMT -5
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Post by cleansheet on Mar 25, 2021 21:20:20 GMT -5
Ufa is in and so is afu. AFU had a nightmare year in boys ECNL this year. How can afu field a decent side in ECRL when they are an embarrassment in ECNL? Makes no sense.
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ECRL
Mar 25, 2021 21:42:48 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Mar 25, 2021 21:42:48 GMT -5
With new coaches, better retention and better recruitment. Plus someone’s got to be on the bottom.
Plus how many players would rather be on the last place ECNL team then the mid place ECRL/SCCL/DPL whatever league team.
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 6:40:23 GMT -5
Post by kidsocceruber on Mar 26, 2021 6:40:23 GMT -5
No announcement I can see on the girls side though, they're not included in any of this?
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Post by ga3v3 on Mar 26, 2021 7:04:31 GMT -5
How are parents so gullible to agree to put their kids on a mid level team that has to travel regionally? Youth soccer in this state (probably the entire country)has become such a joke and parents are solely to blame. When will paying customers say enough is enough.
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Mar 26, 2021 7:31:04 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Mar 26, 2021 7:31:04 GMT -5
How are parents so gullible to agree to put their kids on a mid level team that has to travel regionally? Youth soccer in this state (probably the entire country)has become such a joke and parents are solely to blame. When will paying customers say enough is enough. “Thank you, Sir! May I have another?!”
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 26, 2021 7:41:05 GMT -5
How are parents so gullible to agree to put their kids on a mid level team that has to travel regionally? Youth soccer in this state (probably the entire country)has become such a joke and parents are solely to blame. When will paying customers say enough is enough. I have to echo this, parents/players are the customers. Amazes me what we as the customers put up with. In any purchase we go with reviews, customer referrals, spend hours online researching this, that and the other. But in soccer we just take it. Hey DOC we don't want Coach X, sorry you are SOL, hey DOC we would rather just play out of location X, nope we have to field the best team in location Y, so you driving 45 mins each way to practice and then playing games an hour away at an alternate location is just fine. Our coaches have to do it too, oh and we'll have you suckers pay additional for all the extra trainings and idiotic tournaments where you will get smashed but spend $1000 for a glorified weekend in east Tibet. ENDs
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 7:57:24 GMT -5
Post by mightydawg on Mar 26, 2021 7:57:24 GMT -5
GSA has made the announcement too. Well, I guess for the second time since they were the first to actually post but got ahead of ECNL in announcing regional league in Georgia.
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Post by ball2futbol on Mar 26, 2021 8:50:01 GMT -5
How are parents so gullible to agree to put their kids on a mid level team that has to travel regionally? Youth soccer in this state (probably the entire country)has become such a joke and parents are solely to blame. When will paying customers say enough is enough. I have to echo this, parents/players are the customers. Amazes me what we as the customers put up with. In any purchase we go with reviews, customer referrals, spend hours online researching this, that and the other. But in soccer we just take it. Hey DOC we don't want Coach X, sorry you are SOL, hey DOC we would rather just play out of location X, nope we have to field the best team in location Y, so you driving 45 mins each way to practice and then playing games an hour away at an alternate location is just fine. Our coaches have to do it too, oh and we'll have you suckers pay additional for all the extra trainings and idiotic tournaments where you will get smashed but spend $1000 for a glorified weekend in east Tibet. ENDs We can always create an addition to the alphabet soup, the "PSU" Parental Soccer Union! I'd like to start with nominations, Futsal Gawdess for Pres!
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 26, 2021 8:50:12 GMT -5
What I think is weird is that ECNL made the announcement but did not say which clubs. Prior announcements that I have seen have always said which clubs.
GSA, AFU and UFA confirmed. What about the others? Also people are assuming this will be regional traveling more than SCCL but until the clubs come out you cannot know that? It may be the same clubs as SCCL with possibly the addition of SC teams as there seems to be a realignment there (but CESA was SCCL originally anyway).
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Mar 26, 2021 8:59:02 GMT -5
Someone wake me up when the dust settles on all of this.
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 26, 2021 9:03:00 GMT -5
Someone wake me up when the dust settles on all of this. In youth soccer, the dust never settles. It just gets rearranged.
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 9:09:48 GMT -5
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Mar 26, 2021 9:09:48 GMT -5
Someone wake me up when the dust settles on all of this. In youth soccer, the dust never settles. It just gets rearranged. True. The one constant since we joined the club soccer scene has been change.
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Post by justwatching on Mar 26, 2021 9:27:27 GMT -5
Ufa is in and so is afu. AFU had a nightmare year in boys ECNL this year. How can afu field a decent side in ECRL when they are an embarrassment in ECNL? Makes no sense. If AFU was able to field a SCCL team they should be fine for ECRL. The pool of kids available doesn't change just the name of the league. The league will be the same level as SCCL.
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 10:03:01 GMT -5
Post by mightydawg on Mar 26, 2021 10:03:01 GMT -5
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 10:11:44 GMT -5
Post by mightydawg on Mar 26, 2021 10:11:44 GMT -5
Maybe I was wrong about Concorde. Results for the 4th team are better than I thought. With two teams in ECNL, here are how Concorde's 3rd and 4th teams finished in the fall.
U13 2nd SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U14 2nd SCCL-C 1st P-1 U15 10th SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U16 9th SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U17 3rd SCCL-C 3rd P-1
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 10:28:08 GMT -5
Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Mar 26, 2021 10:28:08 GMT -5
Maybe I was wrong about Concorde. Results for the 4th team are better than I thought. With two teams in ECNL, here are how Concorde's 3rd and 4th teams finished in the fall. U13 2nd SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U14 2nd SCCL-C 1st P-1 U15 10th SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U16 9th SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U17 3rd SCCL-C 3rd P-1 Keep in mind that some of those former SSA players who are on the current Concorde ECNL Premier teams will make the full-time move to Concorde to continue playing ECNL. While it won't be enough girls to make a full team, it bolsters what they have already. I'm sure it will vary from age group to age group, in terms of how many make that move. But just something to think about.
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 10:28:48 GMT -5
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Post by flamengo100 on Mar 26, 2021 10:28:48 GMT -5
The Concorde North 07 Boys team is extremely good and wouldn't be surprised if they played in the ENCL Regional League. The AFU South 07 Boys team has done very well in P-1 and beaten SCCL Club teams in tournaments so could be an opportunity for some of these satellite branches to play with better competition.
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 10:40:12 GMT -5
Post by mightydawg on Mar 26, 2021 10:40:12 GMT -5
Maybe I was wrong about Concorde. Results for the 4th team are better than I thought. With two teams in ECNL, here are how Concorde's 3rd and 4th teams finished in the fall. U13 2nd SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U14 2nd SCCL-C 1st P-1 U15 10th SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U16 9th SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U17 3rd SCCL-C 3rd P-1 Keep in mind that some of those former SSA players who are on the current Concorde ECNL Premier teams will make the full-time move to Concorde to continue playing ECNL. While it won't be enough girls to make a full team, it bolsters what they have already. I'm sure it will vary from age group to age group, in terms of how many make that move. But just something to think about. The summary above was boys, which does not have a relationship with SSA for its 2 ECNL teams. Girls will be an entirely different story if ECRL is announced for girls. With the loss of at least some SSA players ( I am hearing about 50/50 stay at Concorde v. return to SSA), unless there is a large influx of players from other clubs, I do think that Concorde would have a very difficult time fielding 4 quality girls teams per age group. Not to mention, the drop off between levels between girls seems to be much sharper than the drop off between boys. Take U14 girls for example. Concorde ECNL Premier is 12th in the ECNL table. Concorde SCCL is 1st in SCCL Club, went undefeated in league play with a 27-2 goals for/against. They have played the ECNL Premier team twice and lost both times. 6-1 and 2-0.
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 10:41:12 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 26, 2021 10:41:12 GMT -5
Maybe I was wrong about Concorde. Results for the 4th team are better than I thought. With two teams in ECNL, here are how Concorde's 3rd and 4th teams finished in the fall. U13 2nd SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U14 2nd SCCL-C 1st P-1 U15 10th SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U16 9th SCCL-C 2nd P-1 U17 3rd SCCL-C 3rd P-1 Keep in mind that some of those former SSA players who are on the current Concorde ECNL Premier teams will make the full-time move to Concorde to continue playing ECNL. While it won't be enough girls to make a full team, it bolsters what they have already. I'm sure it will vary from age group to age group, in terms of how many make that move. But just something to think about. We are just talking boys as of right now though I suspect girls announcement to follow
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 10:53:27 GMT -5
Post by soccernoleuk on Mar 26, 2021 10:53:27 GMT -5
If/when the girls side is announced, I am thinking it will NOT be a re-branding of SCCL. I would think both Rush & FC Alliance would be left out of ECRL, especially FC Alliance. their ECNL team is in a different region and I would think their ECRL team would fall within that region.
As for Concorde girls, I think it will depend on the age group and how many SSA girls stay to play on the Premier team. I have a feeling they will figure out a way to field 2 competitive teams in each league.
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 10:53:58 GMT -5
Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Mar 26, 2021 10:53:58 GMT -5
Keep in mind that some of those former SSA players who are on the current Concorde ECNL Premier teams will make the full-time move to Concorde to continue playing ECNL. While it won't be enough girls to make a full team, it bolsters what they have already. I'm sure it will vary from age group to age group, in terms of how many make that move. But just something to think about. The summary above was boys, which does not have a relationship with SSA for its 2 ECNL teams. Girls will be an entirely different story if ECRL is announced for girls. With the loss of at least some SSA players ( I am hearing about 50/50 stay at Concorde v. return to SSA), unless there is a large influx of players from other clubs, I do think that Concorde would have a very difficult time fielding 4 quality girls teams per age group. Ahh okay - I thought it was speculation of how the girls' side would look if Concorde went into ECRL for girls too.
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Post by MAP1 on Mar 26, 2021 10:57:01 GMT -5
Does this mean Concorde’s second team will be ECRL? If ECNL wants first club team how can a club have two teams under ECNL?
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 10:58:05 GMT -5
Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Mar 26, 2021 10:58:05 GMT -5
If/when the girls side is announced, I am thinking it will NOT be a re-branding of SCCL. I would think both Rush & FC Alliance would be left out of ECRL, especially FC Alliance. their ECNL team is in a different region and I would think their ECRL team would fall within that region. As for Concorde girls, I think it will depend on the age group and how many SSA girls stay to play on the Premier team. I have a feeling they will figure out a way to field 2 competitive teams in each league. Talking to a Rush coach yesterday, he seems to think they're moving toward MLSNext for boys and GA/DPL for girls.
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 11:01:28 GMT -5
Post by justhappytobehere on Mar 26, 2021 11:01:28 GMT -5
Where does this leave NTH boys? This feels like game of thrones.
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 11:08:40 GMT -5
Post by ball2futbol on Mar 26, 2021 11:08:40 GMT -5
If/when the girls side is announced, I am thinking it will NOT be a re-branding of SCCL. I would think both Rush & FC Alliance would be left out of ECRL, especially FC Alliance. their ECNL team is in a different region and I would think their ECRL team would fall within that region. As for Concorde girls, I think it will depend on the age group and how many SSA girls stay to play on the Premier team. I have a feeling they will figure out a way to field 2 competitive teams in each league. I can easily see a regional re-alignments at both ECNL/ECRL once all announcements are published. Geographically makes sense for TN clubs to get pulled into the SE, I'd imagine TN parents would welcome that move opposed to hicks to Western NY! I think the B-Ham area clubs are becoming the x-factor... so goes them, so goes the regional alignments. Either way I agree with your theory on Rush.
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ECRL
Mar 26, 2021 11:25:27 GMT -5
Post by messindreams on Mar 26, 2021 11:25:27 GMT -5
Where does this leave NTH boys? This feels like game of thrones. I am sensing that NASA will have 2 MLS teams or one MLS and one ECNL team for 2021-2022 season. If Rush and NASA get boys U13-U19 MLS then that will make 4 local clubs with U15+ Boys MLS teams (AU, NASA, SSA and RUSH). This is about to get interesting if not already.
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Post by atlsoccer on Mar 26, 2021 11:43:17 GMT -5
Where does this leave NTH boys? This feels like game of thrones. I am sensing that NASA will have 2 MLS teams or one MLS and one ECNL team for 2021-2022 season. If Rush and NASA get boys U13-U19 MLS then that will make 4 local clubs with U15+ Boys MLS teams (AU, NASA, SSA and RUSH). This is about to get interesting if not already. I think it will be very difficult for a team to straggle two different leagues, but maybe that is possible. But I would be shocked if Rush gets u15+ for MLS next year, they must be much bigger and better than I realize? Which clubs does that leave out of MLS and ECNL next year? KSA, Columbus, MOBA, AFC, Roswell? Any news on these or anything other noteworthy clubs and where they might land?
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Post by hattrick07 on Mar 26, 2021 12:05:31 GMT -5
If/when the girls side is announced, I am thinking it will NOT be a re-branding of SCCL. I would think both Rush & FC Alliance would be left out of ECRL, especially FC Alliance. their ECNL team is in a different region and I would think their ECRL team would fall within that region. As for Concorde girls, I think it will depend on the age group and how many SSA girls stay to play on the Premier team. I have a feeling they will figure out a way to field 2 competitive teams in each league. The easy way to fill 4 teams is to not choose 18 players per team. But of course, that would be less $$$ for the club, and youth soccer seems to be more about the $$$ than the kids. Just an honest observation.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Mar 26, 2021 12:22:36 GMT -5
If/when the girls side is announced, I am thinking it will NOT be a re-branding of SCCL. I would think both Rush & FC Alliance would be left out of ECRL, especially FC Alliance. their ECNL team is in a different region and I would think their ECRL team would fall within that region. As for Concorde girls, I think it will depend on the age group and how many SSA girls stay to play on the Premier team. I have a feeling they will figure out a way to field 2 competitive teams in each league. I can easily see a regional re-alignments at both ECNL/ECRL once all announcements are published. Geographically makes sense for TN clubs to get pulled into the SE, I'd imagine TN parents would welcome that move opposed to hicks to Western NY! I think the B-Ham area clubs are becoming the x-factor... so goes them, so goes the regional alignments. Either way I agree with your theory on Rush. On the girls side, I do not believe TN can be aligned in the southeast because girls HS soccer is in the fall. The boys can be with Georgia & Alabama though.
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Post by soccerbro on Mar 26, 2021 13:04:59 GMT -5
If/when the girls side is announced, I am thinking it will NOT be a re-branding of SCCL. I would think both Rush & FC Alliance would be left out of ECRL, especially FC Alliance. their ECNL team is in a different region and I would think their ECRL team would fall within that region. As for Concorde girls, I think it will depend on the age group and how many SSA girls stay to play on the Premier team. I have a feeling they will figure out a way to field 2 competitive teams in each league. The easy way to fill 4 teams is to not choose 18 players per team. But of course, that would be less $$$ for the club, and youth soccer seems to be more about the $$$ than the kids. Just an honest observation. So true, hatrick07. I also think a normal non-covid tryout year will enable Concorde to better allocate talent across teams. I don't think rosters this year were wildly efficient in some age groups. And I wouldn't rule out movement away from other clubs to Concorde, although that is impossible to predict.
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