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Apr 13, 2021 21:25:25 GMT -5
Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 13, 2021 21:25:25 GMT -5
yes, i know its a complex venn diagram then extends in to Alabama and South Carolina and probably tenn. I know people from Dallas that play at UFA. I know people from east of snellville that play at concorde. I know kids from south atlanta that play at tophat. I got it right away! especially after you first posted it, stating "Not by any means accurate...".   I like it though, it's pretty decent ballpark-ish map!! Toss in the mid and smaller clubs and it would like like a jumbled mess of colors and shapes. |
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Apr 14, 2021 9:25:44 GMT -5
Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 14, 2021 9:25:44 GMT -5
SSA has not done well. Not sure they have won a MLS Next league game yet at U16, U17, U19. The league has been very poorly run so far. Stay the course, help is on the way. Details are being finalized, but I can almost guarantee it will be run more efficiently and professionally next season... 🙊🙈🙉 |
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Apr 14, 2021 9:26:37 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 14, 2021 9:26:37 GMT -5
I’m wondering if they were so focused on getting into ECRL that they let the GA/DPL opportunity slip away. Then again, while I believe that the ECRL 21/22 seasons are now fixed, maybe it’s not too late for GA or DPL. The GAL open application and recruitment window has now closed. Local clubs made their pitch but for the 2 other teams that almost made it, they have been told to try again next year, because they came up just short... 🙉🙊🙈 |
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Apr 14, 2021 12:44:23 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 14, 2021 12:44:23 GMT -5
yes, i know its a complex venn diagram then extends in to Alabama and South Carolina and probably tenn. I know people from Dallas that play at UFA. I know people from east of snellville that play at concorde. I know kids from south atlanta that play at tophat. Not trying to be critical, just saying that Dawson, Hall county left out and other northern counties that send a lot to UFA and AFU. Have many friends in Flowery Branch, etc that go to AFU because it is better than LSA and most people tend to go towards town (Atlanta) rather than away from it. |
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Apr 14, 2021 16:01:57 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 14, 2021 16:01:57 GMT -5
The GAL open application and recruitment window has now closed. Local clubs made their pitch but for the 2 other teams that almost made it, they have been told to try again next year, because they came up just short... 🙉🙊🙈 And the 2 others were? Roswell and Inter? UFA (kinda doubt it)? |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 14, 2021 16:25:16 GMT -5
I'm just not down with kids or anyone having to travel 5+ hours to play a youth soccer game. I just find that completely unnecessary for regular season games.
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Apr 14, 2021 16:30:00 GMT -5
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Post by girlsoccer on Apr 14, 2021 16:30:00 GMT -5
The GAL open application and recruitment window has now closed. Local clubs made their pitch but for the 2 other teams that almost made it, they have been told to try again next year, because they came up just short... 🙉🙊🙈 And the 2 others were? Roswell and Inter? UFA (kinda doubt it)? I thought Roswell and inter were in DPL for next year? No? |
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Apr 14, 2021 16:41:01 GMT -5
Post by mightydawg on Apr 14, 2021 16:41:01 GMT -5
And the 2 others were? Roswell and Inter? UFA (kinda doubt it)? I thought Roswell and inter were in DPL for next year? No? AFC, Inter, and SSA have been announced as new members of DPL but Roswell has not. |
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Apr 14, 2021 17:26:55 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 14, 2021 17:26:55 GMT -5
I'm just not down with kids or anyone having to travel 5+ hours to play a youth soccer game. I just find that completely unnecessary for regular season games. I understand that. Problem with Atlanta is that we have a pretty good distance around us with not many cities. B'ham which has one or maybe two teams per age group that are good enough to play the top teams. Charlotte has a few. RTP is more than 5 hours. Charleston is like B'ham. Jax is more than 5 hours. Nashville is on the edge of that depending on where you live. And the kids do get bored playing the same 5 or 6 teams all the time. If we could get these other few teams high enough that you could 8-10 elite teams in Atlanta that would be great. Otherwise you are pretty well stuck with having to travel in order to have the kids challenge themselves. We want to be a competitive country for World Cup then we have to have the kids challenge themselves when they are young week in and week out. Now is you are in Cali you have it made or maybe in the Northeast. |
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Apr 14, 2021 17:42:03 GMT -5
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 14, 2021 17:42:03 GMT -5
I thought Roswell and inter were in DPL for next year? No? AFC, Inter, and SSA have been announced as new members of DPL but Roswell has not. FG said 2 local clubs that applied to GAL were denied. AFC and SSA are in GAL and DPL for 21/22 and Inter is in DPL (making me think they were one of the 2 denied GAL). If RSC is in DPL this is the first I've seen of it. |
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Apr 14, 2021 20:02:12 GMT -5
Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 14, 2021 20:02:12 GMT -5
The GAL open application and recruitment window has now closed. Local clubs made their pitch but for the 2 other teams that almost made it, they have been told to try again next year, because they came up just short... 🙉🙊🙈 And the 2 others were? Roswell and Inter? UFA (kinda doubt it)? As far as I know, Roswell was not one. Again, not saying they didn't apply, I just don't have any intimate knowledge of them applying... |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 14, 2021 20:07:17 GMT -5
I'm just not down with kids or anyone having to travel 5+ hours to play a youth soccer game. I just find that completely unnecessary for regular season games. I understand that. Problem with Atlanta is that we have a pretty good distance around us with not many cities. B'ham which has one or maybe two teams per age group that are good enough to play the top teams. Charlotte has a few. RTP is more than 5 hours. Charleston is like B'ham. Jax is more than 5 hours. Nashville is on the edge of that depending on where you live. And the kids do get bored playing the same 5 or 6 teams all the time. If we could get these other few teams high enough that you could 8-10 elite teams in Atlanta that would be great. Otherwise you are pretty well stuck with having to travel in order to have the kids challenge themselves. We want to be a competitive country for World Cup then we have to have the kids challenge themselves when they are young week in and week out. Now is you are in Cali you have it made or maybe in the Northeast. I see the point you are making and you're also right that California and the Northeast are much more loaded with top level clubs. You mentioned having 8-10 clubs would make it great. Well... if you combined the GAL and ECNL clubs you have 8 right there and a couple of those could even field 2 teams making it 10. It's just that we're stuck in this alphabet soup of leagues now as well. It's too bad that things have gone away from being under one umbrella. |
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Apr 14, 2021 20:38:51 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 14, 2021 20:38:51 GMT -5
I understand that. Problem with Atlanta is that we have a pretty good distance around us with not many cities. B'ham which has one or maybe two teams per age group that are good enough to play the top teams. Charlotte has a few. RTP is more than 5 hours. Charleston is like B'ham. Jax is more than 5 hours. Nashville is on the edge of that depending on where you live. And the kids do get bored playing the same 5 or 6 teams all the time. If we could get these other few teams high enough that you could 8-10 elite teams in Atlanta that would be great. Otherwise you are pretty well stuck with having to travel in order to have the kids challenge themselves. We want to be a competitive country for World Cup then we have to have the kids challenge themselves when they are young week in and week out. Now is you are in Cali you have it made or maybe in the Northeast. I see the point you are making and you're also right that California and the Northeast are much more loaded with top level clubs. You mentioned having 8-10 clubs would make it great. Well... if you combined the GAL and ECNL clubs you have 8 right there and a couple of those could even field 2 teams making it 10. It's just that we're stuck in this alphabet soup of leagues now as well. It's too bad that things have gone away from being under one umbrella. No question that we could do 8 teams here (not 10 though) but I think only WITH the alphabet leagues. Without it I think it would fall apart. When I watch the academy teams the big 6 dominate completely on girls side. Rarely you will have a satellite location with a great team (usually Tophat now though Concorde North used to do it). The mergers have also lead to this domination of big clubs. AFC and Inter have had trouble competing at most age groups and Santos is definitely better than when my older kid went through but I just don't see a way out of it without the alphabets. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 15, 2021 12:53:09 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if both UFA and NASA jump to MLS Next. Perhaps one... but not both. Also, if either or both did, what makes you think they lose ECNL? Perhaps they move their first teams to MLS Next and have the second teams play ECNL (similar to the previous year's DA/ENCL structure). I'm not sure how competitive clubs other than AU are in MLS. Does anyone know how SSA, LSA, or Inter have done? I've heard Inter haven't won a game - no word on the others. So, no... I don't think it would trump ECNL - at least not yet. SSA has not done well. Not sure they have won a MLS Next league game yet at U16, U17, U19. The league has been very poorly run so far. No advance schedule. Get notified 2-3 weeks in advance. And TONS of travel. Doesn't seem to be a Home and Away structure as SSA has only played AU at home. Every other game so far has been out of state. Maybe they will figure things out a little better by next year but it was not fun being a guinea pig this year. Told you help was on the way, in short order you will have a well run environment for your player to grow and thrive... www.ssaelite.com/Default.aspx?tabid=187500&mid=212342&newskeyid=HN1&newsid=377129&ctl=newsdetail |
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Post by girlsoccer on Apr 16, 2021 11:06:36 GMT -5
And the 2 others were? Roswell and Inter? UFA (kinda doubt it)? As far as I know, Roswell was not one. Again, not saying they didn't apply, I just don't have any intimate knowledge of them applying... Roswell is in DPL for next year. Not sure if they are one of the clubs who applied for GAL or not, but they are in DPL. |
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Apr 16, 2021 11:27:15 GMT -5
Post by mightydawg on Apr 16, 2021 11:27:15 GMT -5
As far as I know, Roswell was not one. Again, not saying they didn't apply, I just don't have any intimate knowledge of them applying... Roswell is in DPL for next year. Not sure if they are one of the clubs who applied for GAL or not, but they are in DPL. Has there been an announcement by either DPL or Roswell to that effect or is this top secret, classified information? |
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Apr 16, 2021 11:30:37 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Apr 16, 2021 11:30:37 GMT -5
Roswell is in DPL for next year. Not sure if they are one of the clubs who applied for GAL or not, but they are in DPL. Has there been an announcement by either DPL or Roswell to that effect or is this top secret, classified information? Look, it’s posted on the Georgia Soccer forum-that’s the gold standard for verification-what more do you want? 😅 |
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Apr 16, 2021 11:34:38 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Apr 16, 2021 11:34:38 GMT -5
Has there been an announcement by either DPL or Roswell to that effect or is this top secret, classified information? Look, it’s posted on the Georgia Soccer forum-that’s the gold standard for verification-what more do you want? 😅 That is how I get all of my news and information--from anonymous chat rooms. |
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Post by girlsoccer on Apr 16, 2021 11:37:19 GMT -5
Roswell is in DPL for next year. Not sure if they are one of the clubs who applied for GAL or not, but they are in DPL. Has there been an announcement by either DPL or Roswell to that effect or is this top secret, classified information? Yes. Roswell has sent out an email to their blue teams announcing the move to DPL. Since Roswellnis a city sponsored team, the city council had to vote on it to officially approve the switch.They did that this AM. Henceforth, my word should be accepted without need for further confirmation 😂 |
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Apr 16, 2021 11:43:00 GMT -5
Post by mightydawg on Apr 16, 2021 11:43:00 GMT -5
Has there been an announcement by either DPL or Roswell to that effect or is this top secret, classified information? Yes. Roswell has sent out an email to their blue teams announcing the move to DPL. Since Roswellnis a city sponsored team, the city council had to vote on it to officially approve the switch.They did that this AM. Henceforth, my word should be accepted without need for further confirmation 😂 So it top secret, classified information. Thanks for the scoop. What are they doing with their boys teams? |
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Apr 16, 2021 11:44:14 GMT -5
Post by ball2futbol on Apr 16, 2021 11:44:14 GMT -5
I did hear the 'small but formidable club that could' made a major step forward this morning. But I assumed it was a step toward the other alphabet league. Either way good to hear they've gotten through the red-tape of the city and will keep pace with the Big 5.
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Post by ball2futbol on Apr 16, 2021 11:58:14 GMT -5
"What are they doing with their boys teams?"
Hence why I assumed it was going to be a move towards the other league.
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Apr 16, 2021 12:17:36 GMT -5
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 16, 2021 12:17:36 GMT -5
On the girls side, Rush has no business even in DPL (would not be competitive). If they merge with Ambush then MAYBE. I think UFA Norcross is about to OWN girls SCCL-C. The only question I have is will NTH get 2 teams in DPL? I have a feeling that will happen with Concorde having 2 ECNL and 2 ECRL teams. Let the talent dilution commence!
Another bunch of questions:
How is SCCL-Club going to compensate? I assume FC Alliance will bolt, not worth it. BUSA, if they have a 3rd team likely won't be in it for the travel.
Will Roswell put their 2nd (red) teams in SCCL-C?
Will Columbus be added under the Concorde moniker? Does LSA have a team per age group to add to SCCL-C?
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Post by newposter on Apr 16, 2021 12:39:13 GMT -5
Lets be honest, after ECNL and MLS next, the leagues lower are also lower with regards to overall talent. As its been said before, once kids hit u14/15, the coaches know who the best plsyers are and so do the kids themselves. Many of the Big club top teams are self recruited by players. Not trying to be critical but being honest with regards to player development.
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Apr 16, 2021 12:46:17 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 16, 2021 12:46:17 GMT -5
We may have to start talking about the "Big 9" for 2021-22. The clubs in ECNL/ECRL/GAL/DPL:
AFC
Atlanta Fire
Concorde Fire
GSA
Inter
Roswell
SSA
Tophat
UFA
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 16, 2021 13:02:35 GMT -5
No disrespect to the kids/families who play in these leagues, but I honestly don't think ECRL\DPL should be in this conversation. I think when you want to talk about top teams or leagues, we leave it at MLS-Next, ECNL(boys n girls), GAL. Because honestly, some of the teams in all three leagues are suspect at best and are punching above their weight class. When we start to bring in 2nd, 3rd,... teams, the dilution of talent becomes glaringly obvious...
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Apr 16, 2021 13:05:20 GMT -5
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Post by footyfan on Apr 16, 2021 13:05:20 GMT -5
Lets be honest, after ECNL and MLS next, the leagues lower are also lower with regards to overall talent. As its been said before, once kids hit u14/15, the coaches know who the best plsyers are and so do the kids themselves. Many of the Big club top teams are self recruited by players. Not trying to be critical but being honest with regards to player development. I kinda get your point, but most coaches only judge whats in front of them at the present moment(and even then often poorly). I'd change it to U16, at least on the boys side. By then more kids have hit puberty so when coaches can say "HE/SHE IS FAST AND CAN KICK HARD THEY MUST BE BEST OF BEST," they are at least comparing like-to-like physical maturity levels. Also, Arsenal's Gabriel Martinelli only played futsal until he was 15. There may be indoor leagues/players we are missing. |
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Post by mightydawg on Apr 16, 2021 14:20:48 GMT -5
"What are they doing with their boys teams?" Hence why I assumed it was going to be a move towards the other league. here is the info directly from the Roswell meeting agenda: ( I have to say that ECRL blew it by not including Roswell. Roswell admittedly wanted to go the ECRL route but were denied admission). roswellcityga.iqm2.com/Citizens/Detail_LegiFile.aspx?Frame=&MeetingID=2763&MediaPosition=&ID=6884&CssClass=Due to a newly formed league, Elite Clubs Regional League (ECRL), that will begin competition starting in fall 2021, RSC formed a committee of board members, City staff, and competitive coaches to evaluate the competition level for the girls blue teams who play in the highest level of SCCL. With the addition of ECRL, the top clubs in Georgia will move teams, who competed in the highest division of SCCL, into the ECRL. In its inaugural year, the only teams allowed in the ECRL are those clubs who previously held positions in the Elite Club National League, ECNL. In our experience during the fall 2020 season, which included the teams being moved to ECRL, our girls blue teams won all or nearly all games in the highest level of SCCL competition. Even though our girls blue teams had great success against the teams allowed into the ECRL, we are denied participation in the inaugural year this fall 2021 season. After realization of teams being withdrawn from the SCCL, the committee determined that the competition level in the fall 2021 season for the top division of SCCL would not be appropriate for our girls blue teams. As we were not allowed in the ECRL, the committee was assigned the task to find a league suitable for our girls blue teams. The committee researched various leagues making phone calls, researching online, and speaking to competing club coaches and board members. After reviewing all the options, the committee recommended to the full RSC board to affiliate with the Development Players League (DPL). The DPL is excited to invite our teams into their league. DPL not only provides the proper level of competition for the girls Blue competitive teams, it continues to allow our girl’s blue teams to remain affiliated with RSC and provide an opportunity for Roswell residents currently registered with our competitive program to play soccer. The committee’s findings concluded that the SCCL would continue to be the appropriate level of play for the remaining competitive girl’s teams (red and white teams) as well as all levels for the boy’s competitive teams for the fall 2021 season. It is important to note the committee recognizes the boy’s top division of SCCL may be experiencing a similar shift as the girls division for the fall 2022 season and RSC will continue to monitor the evolving landscape of youth competitive soccer in our region. |
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Apr 16, 2021 14:26:49 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 16, 2021 14:26:49 GMT -5
It was a mistake by ECRL to deny Santos. It is DPL's gain. If they do well enough there (and retain their talent) they may be able to get into GA. It seems like GA is not allowing clubs to dictate who gets in or not. I don't know that for a fact but I suspect it based on rumors that I heard. However since GA has the motto "for the players, by the players" there may come a time when the player's board says that it is detrimental to them to allow more teams into GA in their city. If GA actually listened to that it would be very interesting...
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Apr 16, 2021 14:30:08 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Apr 16, 2021 14:30:08 GMT -5
"What are they doing with their boys teams?" Hence why I assumed it was going to be a move towards the other league. here is the info directly from the Roswell meeting agenda: ( I have to say that ECRL blew it by not including Roswell. Roswell admittedly wanted to go the ECRL route but were denied admission). roswellcityga.iqm2.com/Citizens/Detail_LegiFile.aspx?Frame=&MeetingID=2763&MediaPosition=&ID=6884&CssClass=Due to a newly formed league, Elite Clubs Regional League (ECRL), that will begin competition starting in fall 2021, RSC formed a committee of board members, City staff, and competitive coaches to evaluate the competition level for the girls blue teams who play in the highest level of SCCL. With the addition of ECRL, the top clubs in Georgia will move teams, who competed in the highest division of SCCL, into the ECRL. In its inaugural year, the only teams allowed in the ECRL are those clubs who previously held positions in the Elite Club National League, ECNL. In our experience during the fall 2020 season, which included the teams being moved to ECRL, our girls blue teams won all or nearly all games in the highest level of SCCL competition. Even though our girls blue teams had great success against the teams allowed into the ECRL, we are denied participation in the inaugural year this fall 2021 season. After realization of teams being withdrawn from the SCCL, the committee determined that the competition level in the fall 2021 season for the top division of SCCL would not be appropriate for our girls blue teams. As we were not allowed in the ECRL, the committee was assigned the task to find a league suitable for our girls blue teams. The committee researched various leagues making phone calls, researching online, and speaking to competing club coaches and board members. After reviewing all the options, the committee recommended to the full RSC board to affiliate with the Development Players League (DPL). The DPL is excited to invite our teams into their league. DPL not only provides the proper level of competition for the girls Blue competitive teams, it continues to allow our girl’s blue teams to remain affiliated with RSC and provide an opportunity for Roswell residents currently registered with our competitive program to play soccer. The committee’s findings concluded that the SCCL would continue to be the appropriate level of play for the remaining competitive girl’s teams (red and white teams) as well as all levels for the boy’s competitive teams for the fall 2021 season. It is important to note the committee recognizes the boy’s top division of SCCL may be experiencing a similar shift as the girls division for the fall 2022 season and RSC will continue to monitor the evolving landscape of youth competitive soccer in our region. Like I have said many times Campbell at GSA has vetoed any and all new Atlanta additions to ecnl/ercl. Santos, ambush, rush and Tophat all looked to go ECRL but we’re denied because gsa can’t afford to lose anymore players. Old fashioned politics… |
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