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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Apr 26, 2021 9:50:31 GMT -5
Second round kicks off today and there are a few interesting matchups this week:
West Forsyth v. Mill Creek (#2 vs #3 in AAAAAAA)
Buford v. Lassiter (#2 vs #4 in AAAAAA)
Jefferson v. NW Whitfield (#3 vs #5 in AAAA)
White County v. Oconee (#2 vs #5 in AAA)
Westminster v. Cherokee Bluff (#1 vs #4 in AAA)
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 26, 2021 9:55:07 GMT -5
Westminster as a AAA is a joke, they are ranked #1 in the country for all levels of high school soccer. GHSA should really look into this and consider realignment of certain schools who continue to dominate their level of competition. Hard for public schools to compete with private schools ability to recruit and the financial impact of $30,000 tuition
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Post by mightydawg on Apr 26, 2021 10:22:42 GMT -5
Westminster as a AAA is a joke, they are ranked #1 in the country for all levels of high school soccer. GHSA should really look into this and consider realignment of certain schools who continue to dominate their level of competition. Hard for public schools to compete with private schools recruiting and handing out $30,000 yearly scholarships I understand your point but do want to point out one small clarification--private schools cannot give out scholarships and comply with GHSA rules. All financial aid must be need based. Here are the relevant GHSA by laws: 1.80 - FINANCIAL AID 1.81 Any student who receives financial aid or non-GHSA approved gifts from any source and in any form (scholarships, tuition remission, cash, gifts, etc.) arising out of or received in connection with their GEORGIA HIGH SCHOOL ASSOCIATION 23 participation in any sport or literary event shall be ruled ineligible. The duration of the ineligibility will last as long as the illegal benefits are being received. This prohibition shall not apply to awards under By-Law 1.90 or to other items approved by the GHSA. (a) If tuition is charged, it must be paid by a parent, legal guardian, or other family member with the exception of payments coming from need-based financial aid. (b) It is not legal for donated funds to be designated for a specific student that are given by non-family members, businesses, churches or other organizations, except for programs specified by state law. (c) Schools may not employ students to work off their tuition costs. (d) The GHSA Executive Director will determine whether the financial aid or gift arose out of or in connection with participation in any sport or literary event. (e) If a school allows a student who has received such financial aid or gifts to participate in competition, the Executive Director shall assess an appropriate penalty. 1.82 Financial aid in the form of free or reduced tuition or other aid must be need-based aid as determined by a national student aid service or financial aid based on institutional policies for academic performance (classroom record and/or test scores) that is administered by persons not in the athletic department. 1.83 Member schools who award financial aid shall issue a statement to the Executive Director signed by the principal or headmaster of the school giving the following information: (a) number of students enrolled in the school (b) number of students receiving financial aid (c) names of students (or a listing of student identification numbers) receiving financial aid who are involved in GHSA activities (d) certification that the percentage of students who participate in activities and who receive financial aid is the same percentage as the number of students receiving financial aid who do not participate in activities (plus or minus 5%) |
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Apr 26, 2021 11:20:47 GMT -5
Westminster as a AAA is a joke, they are ranked #1 in the country for all levels of high school soccer. GHSA should really look into this and consider realignment of certain schools who continue to dominate their level of competition. Hard for public schools to compete with private schools recruiting and handing out $30,000 yearly scholarships I agree with the first part - although I'm not sure how GHSA could equitably place individual teams in different classifications. I think private schools do already play one level up from where they would normally be placed by size (although that could be old info). Maybe a promotion/relegation system would work! But... I don't think scholarships are the issue on this particular team. More likely is that the parents of students there have the resources to put their kids in TH/Concorde/SSA academies for a decade before they get to high school. But who knows. |
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Post by disturbed on Apr 26, 2021 11:23:59 GMT -5
Westminster as a AAA is a joke, they are ranked #1 in the country for all levels of high school soccer. GHSA should really look into this and consider realignment of certain schools who continue to dominate their level of competition. Hard for public schools to compete with private schools recruiting and handing out $30,000 yearly scholarships Are they truly the best team in GA or is it John's Creek? Do you or anyone else think that Westminister can beat John's Creek? Because that JC team is LOADED as well! Would love to see that match up. And don't sleep on North Oconnee they're young and have a lot of ballers. |
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Apr 26, 2021 11:30:38 GMT -5
Westminster as a AAA is a joke, they are ranked #1 in the country for all levels of high school soccer. GHSA should really look into this and consider realignment of certain schools who continue to dominate their level of competition. Hard for public schools to compete with private schools recruiting and handing out $30,000 yearly scholarships Are they truly the best team in GA or is it John's Creek? Do you or anyone else think that Westminister can beat John's Creek? Because that JC team is LOADED as well! Would love to see that match up. And don't sleep on North Oconnee they're young and have a lot of ballers. Westminster and John's Creek were scheduled to play, but the game was cancelled and not rescheduled. It is a shame. John's Creek did lose 0-5 to a West Forsyth team that Westminster beat 3-1. Not that that settles the debate, but it is a data point. I don't know much about that game... |
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Post by varsitycoach on Apr 26, 2021 12:10:31 GMT -5
I would LOVE to see HS soccer in Georgia get innovative and establish a promotion/relegation system. Would be really exciting and would be amazing for the sport in Georgia.
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Post by atlcoach84 on Apr 26, 2021 13:04:10 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Apr 26, 2021 13:24:54 GMT -5
Also, although not exactly on topic but some private schools compete in GISA. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Apr 26, 2021 13:52:48 GMT -5
Westminster as a AAA is a joke, they are ranked #1 in the country for all levels of high school soccer. GHSA should really look into this and consider realignment of certain schools who continue to dominate their level of competition. Hard for public schools to compete with private schools recruiting and handing out $30,000 yearly scholarships I understand your point but do want to point out one small clarification--private schools cannot give out scholarships and comply with GHSA rules. All financial aid must be need based. Here are the relevant GHSA by laws: 1.80 - FINANCIAL AID 1.81 Any student who receives financial aid or non-GHSA approved gifts from any source and in any form (scholarships, tuition remission, cash, gifts, etc.) arising out of or received in connection with their GEORGIA HIGH SCHOOL ASSOCIATION 23 participation in any sport or literary event shall be ruled ineligible. The duration of the ineligibility will last as long as the illegal benefits are being received. This prohibition shall not apply to awards under By-Law 1.90 or to other items approved by the GHSA. (a) If tuition is charged, it must be paid by a parent, legal guardian, or other family member with the exception of payments coming from need-based financial aid. (b) It is not legal for donated funds to be designated for a specific student that are given by non-family members, businesses, churches or other organizations, except for programs specified by state law. (c) Schools may not employ students to work off their tuition costs. (d) The GHSA Executive Director will determine whether the financial aid or gift arose out of or in connection with participation in any sport or literary event. (e) If a school allows a student who has received such financial aid or gifts to participate in competition, the Executive Director shall assess an appropriate penalty. 1.82 Financial aid in the form of free or reduced tuition or other aid must be need-based aid as determined by a national student aid service or financial aid based on institutional policies for academic performance (classroom record and/or test scores) that is administered by persons not in the athletic department. 1.83 Member schools who award financial aid shall issue a statement to the Executive Director signed by the principal or headmaster of the school giving the following information: (a) number of students enrolled in the school (b) number of students receiving financial aid (c) names of students (or a listing of student identification numbers) receiving financial aid who are involved in GHSA activities (d) certification that the percentage of students who participate in activities and who receive financial aid is the same percentage as the number of students receiving financial aid who do not participate in activities (plus or minus 5%) Glad someone clarified that previous statement. I think people are too quick to throw out, oh their good because private schools give out “athletic” scholarships like they’re tic-tac’s! |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 26, 2021 14:14:11 GMT -5
I understand your point but do want to point out one small clarification--private schools cannot give out scholarships and comply with GHSA rules. All financial aid must be need based. Here are the relevant GHSA by laws: ... Glad someone clarified that previous statement. I think people are too quick to throw out, oh their good because private schools give out “athletic” scholarships like they’re tic-tac’s! I'm curious, what do you think makes them so good, since, as you say, it isn't athletic scholarships? |
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Apr 26, 2021 14:22:11 GMT -5
GHSA has to fix the way the playoff are run. The games above should not be happening in the second round. There should be a way for seedings but I do understand the reason why. For instance Lassiter in the 6A bracket has the group of death. They open up against 10 ranked Chattahoochee. Now plays the 2nd Ranked team from Buford. If they win then they get to play the winner of Glynn Academy/North Atlanta (both teams ranked in the top 10) Then if they get through that then more then likely the 3rd ranked Cambridge Bears. If they miraculously get through that gauntlet the the #1 ranked JC waits for them. So for them to possibly win a State Championship they would have to beat 5 top 10 ranked teams. How fair is that. I don't know about you but if they were to run through this they should be in the discussion as top team in Georgia. AND YES I AM A LASSITER HOMER
For the record I still don't think they would be in front of Westminster/Lambert/West Forsyth but damn they deserve some respect. Hopefully they will have a chance to be in the discussion. Still a lot of games to go, some of the teams above might lose. That is why you play the game on the field not on paper.
Good luck to everyone. So happy that DA is gone so the girls can play HS and we can see some better soccer. Schools that were never thought of are now beating people and going deeper into the season
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Apr 26, 2021 14:28:16 GMT -5
Glad someone clarified that previous statement. I think people are too quick to throw out, oh their good because private schools give out “athletic” scholarships like they’re tic-tac’s! I'm curious, what do you think makes them so good, since, as you say, it isn't athletic scholarships? I think notcrazysoccerdad said it best above: "I don't think scholarships are the issue on this particular team. More likely is that the parents of students there have the resources to put their kids in TH/Concorde/SSA academies for a decade before they get to high school. But who knows." I'm sure you could apply that reasoning to other private schools and other sports too. |
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Apr 26, 2021 14:40:19 GMT -5
Second round kicks off today and there are a few interesting matchups this week: West Forsyth v. Mill Creek (#2 vs #3 in AAAAAAA) Buford v. Lassiter (#2 vs #4 in AAAAAA) Jefferson v. NW Whitfield (#3 vs #5 in AAAA) White County v. Oconee (#2 vs #5 in AAA) Westminster v. Cherokee Bluff (#1 vs #4 in AAA) don't forget in 6A Cambridge #3 travels to Dalton #7 North Atlanta #8 travels to Glynn Academy #5 In 7A Norcross #5 travels to Roswell #7 Alpharetta #7 travels to Dunwoody #10 Some great games this week |
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 26, 2021 14:46:31 GMT -5
GHSA has to fix the way the playoff are run. The games above should not be happening in the second round. There should be a way for seedings but I do understand the reason why. For instance Lassiter in the 6A bracket has the group of death. They open up against 10 ranked Chattahoochee. Now plays the 2nd Ranked team from Buford. If they win then they get to play the winner of Glynn Academy/North Atlanta (both teams ranked in the top 10) Then if they get through that then more then likely the 3rd ranked Cambridge Bears. If they miraculously get through that gauntlet the the #1 ranked JC waits for them. So for them to possibly win a State Championship they would have to beat 5 top 10 ranked teams. How fair is that. I don't know about you but if they were to run through this they should be in the discussion as top team in Georgia. AND YES I AM A LASSITER HOMER For the record I still don't think they would be in front of Westminster/Lambert/West Forsyth but damn they deserve some respect. Hopefully they will have a chance to be in the discussion. Still a lot of games to go, some of the teams above might lose. That is why you play the game on the field not on paper. Good luck to everyone. So happy that DA is gone so the girls can play HS and we can see some better soccer. Schools that were never thought of are now beating people and going deeper into the season We have good family friends at River Ridge so imagine playing JC, Riverwood (beat Pope in playoffs), Chattahoochee, and Cambridge to even qualify for playoffs. I believe that RR team beat Pope and lost last second to Lassiter...and they didnt even make the playoffs so could be worse! And I am not a RR homer...ha! |
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Apr 26, 2021 14:51:04 GMT -5
GHSA has to fix the way the playoff are run. The games above should not be happening in the second round. There should be a way for seedings but I do understand the reason why. For instance Lassiter in the 6A bracket has the group of death. They open up against 10 ranked Chattahoochee. Now plays the 2nd Ranked team from Buford. If they win then they get to play the winner of Glynn Academy/North Atlanta (both teams ranked in the top 10) Then if they get through that then more then likely the 3rd ranked Cambridge Bears. If they miraculously get through that gauntlet the the #1 ranked JC waits for them. So for them to possibly win a State Championship they would have to beat 5 top 10 ranked teams. How fair is that. I don't know about you but if they were to run through this they should be in the discussion as top team in Georgia. AND YES I AM A LASSITER HOMER For the record I still don't think they would be in front of Westminster/Lambert/West Forsyth but damn they deserve some respect. Hopefully they will have a chance to be in the discussion. Still a lot of games to go, some of the teams above might lose. That is why you play the game on the field not on paper. Good luck to everyone. So happy that DA is gone so the girls can play HS and we can see some better soccer. Schools that were never thought of are now beating people and going deeper into the season We have good family friends at River Ridge so imagine playing JC, Riverwood (beat Pope in playoffs), Chattahoochee, and Cambridge to even qualify for playoffs. I believe that RR team beat Pope and lost last second to Lassiter...and they didnt even make the playoffs so could be worse! And I am not a RR homer...ha! Agree with that comment, they deserved to be in. Shame that it is run by regions and teams that have no right to be in are in. Would have loved to see what they could have done in the playoffs |
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Post by ball2futbol on Apr 26, 2021 15:27:56 GMT -5
Glad someone clarified that previous statement. I think people are too quick to throw out, oh their good because private schools give out “athletic” scholarships like they’re tic-tac’s! I'm curious, what do you think makes them so good, since, as you say, it isn't athletic scholarships? I have my own theories but girls high school soccer is not being skewed due to athletic scholarships. |
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Post by brookhaven07 on Apr 26, 2021 16:03:35 GMT -5
That Westminster team has 6 d1 commits if i remember correctly including UNC, Texas and Vanderbilt. The UNC commit is on national team too. Don’t know anything about the other team, but the Westminster squad is definitely loaded.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 26, 2021 16:57:54 GMT -5
I would love at minimum seeding not randomly assigned region matchups 1 year ahead of time
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Post by rifle on Apr 26, 2021 17:25:46 GMT -5
I would LOVE to see HS soccer in Georgia get innovative and establish a promotion/relegation system. Would be really exciting and would be amazing for the sport in Georgia. It would certainly be interesting. Now imagine NCAA football! |
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Post by rifle on Apr 26, 2021 17:26:46 GMT -5
GHSA has to fix the way the playoff are run. The games above should not be happening in the second round. There should be a way for seedings but I do understand the reason why. For instance Lassiter in the 6A bracket has the group of death. They open up against 10 ranked Chattahoochee. Now plays the 2nd Ranked team from Buford. If they win then they get to play the winner of Glynn Academy/North Atlanta (both teams ranked in the top 10) Then if they get through that then more then likely the 3rd ranked Cambridge Bears. If they miraculously get through that gauntlet the the #1 ranked JC waits for them. So for them to possibly win a State Championship they would have to beat 5 top 10 ranked teams. How fair is that. I don't know about you but if they were to run through this they should be in the discussion as top team in Georgia. AND YES I AM A LASSITER HOMER For the record I still don't think they would be in front of Westminster/Lambert/West Forsyth but damn they deserve some respect. Hopefully they will have a chance to be in the discussion. Still a lot of games to go, some of the teams above might lose. That is why you play the game on the field not on paper. Good luck to everyone. So happy that DA is gone so the girls can play HS and we can see some better soccer. Schools that were never thought of are now beating people and going deeper into the season Lassiter is ranked #4. It’s not supposed to be easy. |
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Post by bogan on Apr 26, 2021 17:28:34 GMT -5
GHSA has to fix the way the playoff are run. The games above should not be happening in the second round. There should be a way for seedings but I do understand the reason why. For instance Lassiter in the 6A bracket has the group of death. They open up against 10 ranked Chattahoochee. Now plays the 2nd Ranked team from Buford. If they win then they get to play the winner of Glynn Academy/North Atlanta (both teams ranked in the top 10) Then if they get through that then more then likely the 3rd ranked Cambridge Bears. If they miraculously get through that gauntlet the the #1 ranked JC waits for them. So for them to possibly win a State Championship they would have to beat 5 top 10 ranked teams. How fair is that. I don't know about you but if they were to run through this they should be in the discussion as top team in Georgia. AND YES I AM A LASSITER HOMER For the record I still don't think they would be in front of Westminster/Lambert/West Forsyth but damn they deserve some respect. Hopefully they will have a chance to be in the discussion. Still a lot of games to go, some of the teams above might lose. That is why you play the game on the field not on paper. Good luck to everyone. So happy that DA is gone so the girls can play HS and we can see some better soccer. Schools that were never thought of are now beating people and going deeper into the season Lassiter is ranked #4. It’s not supposed to be easy. 😳 |
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on Apr 26, 2021 17:35:01 GMT -5
GHSA has to fix the way the playoff are run. The games above should not be happening in the second round. There should be a way for seedings but I do understand the reason why. For instance Lassiter in the 6A bracket has the group of death. They open up against 10 ranked Chattahoochee. Now plays the 2nd Ranked team from Buford. If they win then they get to play the winner of Glynn Academy/North Atlanta (both teams ranked in the top 10) Then if they get through that then more then likely the 3rd ranked Cambridge Bears. If they miraculously get through that gauntlet the the #1 ranked JC waits for them. So for them to possibly win a State Championship they would have to beat 5 top 10 ranked teams. How fair is that. I don't know about you but if they were to run through this they should be in the discussion as top team in Georgia. AND YES I AM A LASSITER HOMER For the record I still don't think they would be in front of Westminster/Lambert/West Forsyth but damn they deserve some respect. Hopefully they will have a chance to be in the discussion. Still a lot of games to go, some of the teams above might lose. That is why you play the game on the field not on paper. Good luck to everyone. So happy that DA is gone so the girls can play HS and we can see some better soccer. Schools that were never thought of are now beating people and going deeper into the season Lassiter is ranked #4. It’s not supposed to be easy. Agreed but if you look at the other brackets I believe you will see that is probably the toughest road. But iron sharpens iron. Looking forward to see how they do. Round 1 done on to round 2. If we lose at anytime let hope we played our best and we lost to the better team |
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Post by rifle on Apr 26, 2021 17:38:27 GMT -5
Lassiter is ranked #4. It’s not supposed to be easy. Agreed but if you look at the other brackets I believe you will see that is probably the toughest road. But iron sharpens iron. Looking forward to see how they do. Round 1 done on to round 2. If we lose at anytime let hope we played our best and we lost to the better team good luck!! |
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on Apr 26, 2021 19:32:36 GMT -5
That Westminster team has 6 d1 commits if i remember correctly including UNC, Texas and Vanderbilt. The UNC commit is on national team too. Don’t know anything about the other team, but the Westminster squad is definitely loaded. Westminster won 10-0 According to announcers, they have commits to: UVA UNC UGA Rhodes Washington U Columbia Georgetown Maybe more? A couple of sophomores and at least one freshman are probably high D1 recruits as well (but not yet recruited I guess). Yes, that team is stacked. |
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Post by futbolhero on Apr 26, 2021 20:50:09 GMT -5
That Westminster team has 6 d1 commits if i remember correctly including UNC, Texas and Vanderbilt. The UNC commit is on national team too. Don’t know anything about the other team, but the Westminster squad is definitely loaded. Westminster won 10-0 According to announcers, they have commits to: UVA UNC UGA Rhodes Washington U Columbia Georgetown Maybe more? A couple of sophomores and at least one freshman are probably high D1 recruits as well (but not yet recruited I guess). Yes, that team is stacked. The textbook definition of pay to play. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 26, 2021 21:08:27 GMT -5
Westminster won 10-0 According to announcers, they have commits to: UVA UNC UGA Rhodes Washington U Columbia Georgetown Maybe more? A couple of sophomores and at least one freshman are probably high D1 recruits as well (but not yet recruited I guess). Yes, that team is stacked. The textbook definition of pay to play. Not really sure what that is supposed to mean. There are extremely talented ladies on that team and they all would make any other team in the state. They are not paying to play. And there are plenty of talented ladies behind them that are paying the same school and are playing JV or not playing at all. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Apr 26, 2021 21:22:42 GMT -5
Dunwoody defeated Alpharetta tonight 3-1, avenging their first loss of the season and moving to the final 8 of 7A. Will play the winner of Walton & Camden Co.
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Post by kidsocceruber on Apr 26, 2021 21:33:00 GMT -5
GHSA has to fix the way the playoff are run. The games above should not be happening in the second round. There should be a way for seedings but I do understand the reason why. For instance Lassiter in the 6A bracket has the group of death. They open up against 10 ranked Chattahoochee. Now plays the 2nd Ranked team from Buford. If they win then they get to play the winner of Glynn Academy/North Atlanta (both teams ranked in the top 10) Then if they get through that then more then likely the 3rd ranked Cambridge Bears. If they miraculously get through that gauntlet the the #1 ranked JC waits for them. So for them to possibly win a State Championship they would have to beat 5 top 10 ranked teams. How fair is that. I don't know about you but if they were to run through this they should be in the discussion as top team in Georgia. AND YES I AM A LASSITER HOMER For the record I still don't think they would be in front of Westminster/Lambert/West Forsyth but damn they deserve some respect. Hopefully they will have a chance to be in the discussion. Still a lot of games to go, some of the teams above might lose. That is why you play the game on the field not on paper. Good luck to everyone. So happy that DA is gone so the girls can play HS and we can see some better soccer. Schools that were never thought of are now beating people and going deeper into the season We have good family friends at River Ridge so imagine playing JC, Riverwood (beat Pope in playoffs), Chattahoochee, and Cambridge to even qualify for playoffs. I believe that RR team beat Pope and lost last second to Lassiter...and they didnt even make the playoffs so could be worse! And I am not a RR homer...ha! FWIW River Ridge had their destiny in their own hands but lost 2-1 to Riverwood the last game of the region season which created that logjam they lost out on. Had they won Chattahoochee would have been the 4 seed and had a better draw for their first round game  7-AAAAAA was a very difficult region this year to get out of, and yeah that bracket Lassiter/Chattahoochee is runs through 2 #1 seeds, then Cambridge and Johns Creek if it plays out that way. Lassiter is good, they were the better team last week and the Buford game should be entertaining. |
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Post by Keeper on Apr 26, 2021 22:14:13 GMT -5
The GHSA Girls soccer playoffs are a joke. There were 7 games in 7A first round playoffs with scores of 5+ to zero. Four of them were 10-0.
This out of “fairness” nonsense to give to these bumble no where schools to the same number of playoff teams is about as logical as ice fishing in the Caribbean. Though it’s probably more out of lazy/cheapness as making a seeding committee would require effort and money.
Either way, only region champs and runner ups should get an automatic bid, everyone else is based off rankings.
Just perspective, the Boys 7A first round had three games of 5+ to zero scores too.
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7-AAAAAA was a very difficult region this year to get out of, and yeah that bracket Lassiter/Chattahoochee is runs through 2 #1 seeds, then Cambridge and Johns Creek if it plays out that way. Lassiter is good, they were the better team last week and the Buford game should be entertaining.
