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Post by atlfutboldad on May 6, 2020 23:42:37 GMT -5
It's a volatile time. New announcements every day for a couple weeks.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 12, 2020 5:57:50 GMT -5
So if GA Storm is part of this. And All in was going to be part of this and dropped out. Where does that leave PPA? That alliance was KSA, All In & Storm. Is it still even a thing?
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 12, 2020 10:27:23 GMT -5
So...
Rush is merging with Chiefs (breaking up alliance with Inter/Impact/Smyrna)
GA Storm will be in GA CCL (breaking alliance with All-In and KSA?)
Inter/Impact/Smyna will be in GA CCL (so are they keeping this "alliance" together?)
What is anyone hearing about whether the GA CCL clubs will keep whatever teams they have in NL?
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Post by USoCcer on May 12, 2020 10:55:55 GMT -5
I know that Impact is keeping their teams in NL-Piedmont. Their 05G will join NL-Piedmont this fall. Earlier this spring there was talk about their 04G which was in NL-Piedmont last fall, but would have been relegated, was being split up and some girls would move to the 03G team (NL-Piedmont) and other girls would move to the 02'ish team. I don't know why you would break up a team that had a full roster to move them to higher age groups, maybe just the optics of being relegated?
I have to assume that Inter is keeping their girls in NL-Piedmont where applicable as well
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 12, 2020 11:09:36 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see how many relegations actually take place with clubs like Roswell and Ambush as well as NCFC, CSA, etc abandoning their NL spots.
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 12, 2020 11:13:46 GMT -5
Everyone is promoted to GPL and the lowest flight will be Classic 2/ Ath-B.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 12, 2020 12:13:51 GMT -5
By that I mean you have 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th place teams who would normally be relegated back to the state leagues while 1-6 stay in NL. But you have MANY teams who finished 1-6 from Roswell, NCFC, CSA, Rush, NC Fusion and Wake who will likely be vacating NL. Do they shift positions 7-11 UP because so many 1-6 positions aren't sticking around?
Incorporation of Sunshine conference could not have come at a worse time for NL Piedmont. Plenty of people are rethinking travel...
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Post by lsagoalie on May 12, 2020 12:16:55 GMT -5
I was informed the sunshine(Florida) will not be joining Piedmont for the upcoming season.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 12, 2020 12:20:40 GMT -5
I wonder if they will simply close the Sunshine Conference and Florida won't be a part of NL at all. They had difficulty getting participation for Sunshine last year (unable to get 6 teams for the bracket in multiple age groups and I think some age groups didn't play all the games).
This must also mean that only keeping the top 6 teams is out also.
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Post by footyfan on May 12, 2020 13:01:01 GMT -5
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Post by lsagoalie on May 12, 2020 13:02:46 GMT -5
I know that Impact is keeping their teams in NL-Piedmont. Their 05G will join NL-Piedmont this fall. Earlier this spring there was talk about their 04G which was in NL-Piedmont last fall, but would have been relegated, was being split up and some girls would move to the 03G team (NL-Piedmont) and other girls would move to the 02'ish team. I don't know why you would break up a team that had a full roster to move them to higher age groups, maybe just the optics of being relegated? I have to assume that Inter is keeping their girls in NL-Piedmont where applicable as well Ask quick question then, if interatlanta and impact will try to hold on to their piedmont spots for as long as they can, what’s the point of forming CCL because won’t even represent the best teams at these smaller clubs? |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 12, 2020 13:18:34 GMT -5
Yeah, that league will be on the weaker side. I'm curious why Inter was left out or rejected SCCL but then went this way. Bad blood? Didn't like the structure?
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 12, 2020 13:22:24 GMT -5
I know that Impact is keeping their teams in NL-Piedmont. Their 05G will join NL-Piedmont this fall. Earlier this spring there was talk about their 04G which was in NL-Piedmont last fall, but would have been relegated, was being split up and some girls would move to the 03G team (NL-Piedmont) and other girls would move to the 02'ish team. I don't know why you would break up a team that had a full roster to move them to higher age groups, maybe just the optics of being relegated? I have to assume that Inter is keeping their girls in NL-Piedmont where applicable as well Ask quick question then, if interatlanta and impact will try to hold on to their piedmont spots for as long as they can, what’s the point of forming CCL because won’t even represent the best teams at these smaller clubs? I don't know about Inter but Impact only has one team at certain age groups, so if they are keeping Piedmont, then they won't be able to field a team in CCL. |
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Post by lsagoalie on May 12, 2020 13:28:38 GMT -5
Ask quick question then, if interatlanta and impact will try to hold on to their piedmont spots for as long as they can, what’s the point of forming CCL because won’t even represent the best teams at these smaller clubs? I don't know about Inter but Impact only has one teams at certain age groups, so if they are keeping Piedmont, then they won't be able to filed a team in CCL. So what is the point of CCL? |
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Post by toddga675 on May 12, 2020 13:44:32 GMT -5
I don't know about Inter but Impact only has one teams at certain age groups, so if they are keeping Piedmont, then they won't be able to filed a team in CCL. So what is the point of CCL? I have seen an FAQ that supposedly went out to parents in all the clubs participating in CCL. They plan for CCL not to replace National League, GPL, or regular Athena. It will be an additional league to their normal leagues. So these clubs all plan to still play in USYS/Georgia Soccer and participate in CCL. Functionally it looks to me similar to a team having National League and (National League) Piedmont Conference. |
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 12, 2020 13:46:31 GMT -5
So what is the point of CCL? I have seen an FAQ that supposedly went out to parents in all the clubs participating in CCL. They plan for CCL not to replace National League, GPL, or regular Athena. It will be an additional league to their normal leagues. So these clubs all plan to still play in USYS/Georgia Soccer and participate in CCL. Functionally it looks to me similar to a team having National League and (National League) Piedmont Conference. So a supplement league where they play each other? Didn't they already do that just though normal scheduling? |
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Post by toddga675 on May 12, 2020 13:51:34 GMT -5
I have seen an FAQ that supposedly went out to parents in all the clubs participating in CCL. They plan for CCL not to replace National League, GPL, or regular Athena. It will be an additional league to their normal leagues. So these clubs all plan to still play in USYS/Georgia Soccer and participate in CCL. Functionally it looks to me similar to a team having National League and (National League) Piedmont Conference. So a supplement league where they play each other? Didn't they already do that just though normal scheduling? Not necessarily. They could be allowing for combining of teams that may stretch across National League and Athena A. They also may allow different roster situations for CCL vs what they do on regular GSSA team. Providing more games and more opportunitites is a good thing after we just lost the majority of the Spring season. |
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Post by lsagoalie on May 12, 2020 14:25:51 GMT -5
You can’t do that for National League because your returning team has to show roster continuity from the previous season, you wont be able to combine or merge 2 teams to form new teams. You might be able to add a few players (4-5) at best.
In regards to doing both piedmont NL and CCL you would have to schedule CCL for December to avoid conflict with piedmont NL and only if those dates aren’t effected by Covid 19
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 12, 2020 14:34:48 GMT -5
What’s the point of CCL then?
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 12, 2020 14:43:24 GMT -5
Extra games I guess, largely against the same teams. I can't fault it too much.
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Post by toddga675 on May 12, 2020 15:15:39 GMT -5
You can’t do that for National League because your returning team has to show roster continuity from the previous season, you wont be able to combine or merge 2 teams to form new teams. You might be able to add a few players (4-5) at best. In regards to doing both piedmont NL and CCL you would have to schedule CCL for December to avoid conflict with piedmont NL and only if those dates aren’t effected by Covid 19 You need returning roster continuity for National League, but you do not need roster continuity for CCL. So what these clubs do in NL and CCL with rosters, in theory, can be different. Scheduling is also not as difficult as you state because the NL schedule dates are available and CCL events can be developed around those dates. These clubs could use black out dates and reschedules to work around their regular season GSSA games. So the teams get more games, an additional league table, and potentially different rostering options. If it is executed well it can be a win win for parents. |
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Post by guest on May 12, 2020 17:20:35 GMT -5
You can’t do that for National League because your returning team has to show roster continuity from the previous season, you wont be able to combine or merge 2 teams to form new teams. You might be able to add a few players (4-5) at best. You need returning roster continuity for National League, no you don’t. They may say they do, but no one checks and no one follows it. |
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Post by lsagoalie on May 12, 2020 17:32:55 GMT -5
You need returning roster continuity for National League, no you don’t. They may say they do, but no one checks and no one follows it. Good luck with that mentality. Last year we had to submit to Georgia soccer our state roster for the past season and the state roster for the upcoming season and they had to initial and sent directly to the piedmont national league that we had met roster continuity. Which for our team was 9 out of the 15 players at minimum had to be the same (we had 12 of 15 actually) |
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Post by guest on May 13, 2020 6:02:38 GMT -5
Well then that is a def improvement over the past. It’s the way it should be done. My experience has been not that teams were being sneaky about it but rather quite open about ‘handing’ their spot to another team from the same club, year over year.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 13, 2020 10:00:39 GMT -5
Do they have to send copies of birth certificates with that? just curious.
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Post by interestedspectator on May 29, 2020 13:13:35 GMT -5
This just became awkward when TYSA pull out of CCL and go into SCCL.
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Post by Keeper on May 29, 2020 14:40:00 GMT -5
This just became awkward when TYSA pull out of CCL and go into SCCL. TYSA is a dumpster fire right now and There’s a mass exodus after the stunt they pulled with spring fees. SCCL premier is just their way of trying to save their 08 boys which is their only decent group. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 29, 2020 14:46:33 GMT -5
So now the CCL consists of???
And how do teams from the holdouts to SCCL/SCCL-P actually qualify for NL-Piedmont? It doesn't make sense for NL to grant them a team if they don't play anyone. Oh, and by the way, people keep saying NL but what the really mean is NL Piedmont, correct? I think that distinction needs to be more obvious.
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 29, 2020 17:56:56 GMT -5
This just became awkward when TYSA pull out of CCL and go into SCCL. TYSA is a dumpster fire right now and There’s a mass exodus after the stunt they pulled with spring fees. SCCL premier is just their way of trying to save their 08 boys which is their only decent group. Too little, too late? Was the mass exodus/spring fees thing before "tryouts" or after commitments? |
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Post by Keeper on May 29, 2020 19:44:35 GMT -5
TYSA is a dumpster fire right now and There’s a mass exodus after the stunt they pulled with spring fees. SCCL premier is just their way of trying to save their 08 boys which is their only decent group. Too little, too late? Was the mass exodus/spring fees thing before "tryouts" or after commitments? Well the mass exodus I think was coming due to Gareth just running a horrible club. Add in being left out of SCCL, their neighbors Chiefs getting in and CCL pretty much being a flop before it even starts was tough. Then last week they finally made an announcement about refund/credit for spring fees. Parents were told they could donate it to the club or get a $50 credit for the fall, and they had to decide within like 48 hours of that announcement. |
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