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Jul 21, 2021 5:53:10 GMT -5
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Post by flix on Jul 21, 2021 5:53:10 GMT -5
This must be a dream. I know the the USWNT didn’t lose 3-0 to Sweden.
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Jul 21, 2021 6:01:21 GMT -5
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Post by datrain on Jul 21, 2021 6:01:21 GMT -5
Defending on the last 2 goals was non existent. But the US goalie was moving as if she were wearing cement shoes. No reaction time whatsoever.
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Jul 21, 2021 6:26:08 GMT -5
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Post by papacoach on Jul 21, 2021 6:26:08 GMT -5
Probably not the preferred way to start the Olympics with a 0-3 loss to a team u tied 1-1 earlier in the year.
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Jul 21, 2021 6:32:30 GMT -5
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Post by datrain on Jul 21, 2021 6:32:30 GMT -5
Just saw the first goal…that might have been the worst. Centerback must do better marking. That was just lazy. But the goalie is just stuck on her line, did not read the play at all. Just waited for the header to occur. Goalie has to attack that cross. Collective disaster.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 21, 2021 7:46:25 GMT -5
we saw it coming, team hasn't looked good -- i'm sure they will turn it around, but too many younger players left off that deserve a shot. I didn't watch the game --one article said Ertz came in a changed the game, but then we conceded 2 goals in the 2nd half with her in?
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Post by datrain on Jul 21, 2021 8:02:02 GMT -5
Goal 2 was off a corner…the right back took a nap and the goalie appears to have not only mark up the opponent but was slow reacting to the play.
Goal 3, the Left back was run past on an overlap. The cross came into the box to an unmarked striker. Again, poor marking in the air. The header was so-so and should have been pushed over the bar in my opinion. Not an easy play but a play that a national team #1 needs to make
Ertz appeared to have little to no blame on either goal
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Post by soccerloafer on Jul 21, 2021 8:55:38 GMT -5
Maybe less time on political endeavors and more time practicing?
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Jul 21, 2021 9:09:28 GMT -5
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Post by papacoach on Jul 21, 2021 9:09:28 GMT -5
kneeling during the playing of the National Anthem at the Tokyo Olympics… I guess Olympics isn’t politic free in 2021; at least they didn’t drop and possible stepped on the US flag as yet like they did in 2019 me moment celebration
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Post by Keeper on Jul 21, 2021 9:31:34 GMT -5
Maybe less time on political endeavors and more time practicing? Yeah maybe USSoccer should focus on more soccer and less political aligning / ruining youth soccer. They have now turned the women’s game and team into the dumpster fire that is the mens team. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 21, 2021 10:31:51 GMT -5
Wow! Overreact much? It is one game that the team has lost after 44 wins or draws. No one dominates forever. They still can advance.
Personally I think there were people on the roster that maybe should not have been and I think Midge Purce should have been on the roster instead of at home, BUT this team is talented and has plenty of time to turn it around.
Many times you need a game like this to wake you up!!!
I do not think their politics take away time from practicing so that is not it. Probably a little complacent given howamy wins they have had. Sweden is a very good team. They have advanced to the semifinals in the last two major world tournaments. They had a silver in Rio and bronze in 2019. Just chill out and stop saying it is a dumpster fire.
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Post by hawkfan on Jul 21, 2021 10:34:16 GMT -5
Looking at other social media postings, a team that once had the entire country behind them no longer does. See comments above this one to see examples. Did not watch game yesterday and likely won't those upcoming.
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Post by soccerloafer on Jul 21, 2021 10:51:43 GMT -5
Maybe they should just do a 3v3 tournament. I'd watch Ertz, Tobin, and O'Hara play. The rest of them, not so much.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 21, 2021 11:03:50 GMT -5
A loss isn't bad, but to be outclassed like that is eye-opening.
This should have been a good opportunity to get a lot of younger players ready for 2023. Lloyd, Rapinoe and Sauerbrunn are not the future of the team, they're the past. There's 5 other players who should be ending their NT careers in 2023.
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Jul 21, 2021 11:36:00 GMT -5
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Post by papacoach on Jul 21, 2021 11:36:00 GMT -5
After a gut punch loss like this, will see how they adjust
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jul 21, 2021 11:40:03 GMT -5
Wow! Overreact much? It is one game that the team has lost after 44 wins or draws. No one dominates forever. They still can advance. Personally I think there were people on the roster that maybe should not have been and I think Midge Purce should have been on the roster instead of at home, BUT this team is talented and has plenty of time to turn it around. Many times you need a game like this to wake you up!!! I do not think their politics take away time from practicing so that is not it. Probably a little complacent given howamy wins they have had. Sweden is a very good team. They have advanced to the semifinals in the last two major world tournaments. They had a silver in Rio and bronze in 2019. Just chill out and stop saying it is a dumpster fire. Agree with this. Personally I think some on here were ready to dump on the USWNT for their politics and needed a game like this to act like it's been a distraction for them. Laughable, quite frankly. Anywho, we may not win gold but it'll probably have more to do with relying on too many older players who need to retire from the national team. |
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Jul 21, 2021 11:53:53 GMT -5
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Post by hawkfan on Jul 21, 2021 11:53:53 GMT -5
Honestly, no one needed a loss to have this reaction. This has been building for years. They likely will see this in lower TV viewership, ratings and merchandising sales. Remember politics has 2 sides.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jul 21, 2021 12:06:51 GMT -5
Honestly, no one needed a loss to have this reaction. This has been building for years. They likely will see this in lower TV viewership, ratings and merchandising sales. Remember politics has 2 sides. Exactly what will turn into lower TV viewership? Their politics? It hasn't changed that I'm aware of, so when do you think it starts to decline? Serious question - do you think the majority of the people upset by their politics were ever fans of the USWNT to begin with? As in people who regularly watched them but now won't purely because of their views? |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 21, 2021 12:08:15 GMT -5
A loss isn't bad, but to be outclassed like that is eye-opening. This should have been a good opportunity to get a lot of younger players ready for 2023. Lloyd, Rapinoe and Sauerbrunn are not the future of the team, they're the past. There's 5 other players who should be ending their NT careers in 2023. Well we have outclassed many supposed "amazing" teams like France and England and Germany for years. One loss, outclassed or not is no biggie. I agree about some of the older players needing to move on. As for lower TV ratings and viewership that is going to happen this Olympics because it is at a time most people are not going to watch. I love soccer and the national team and the USA but no way am I waking up to watch a 430 am game live. The only thing I get up that early for are emergencies or my kids! I value my sleep too much after years of going without much as a surgeon. However I will watch them after the Olympics no matter what happens. I watch the men despite their failures and I watch AU despite their recent tough times. |
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Post by atv on Jul 21, 2021 12:15:37 GMT -5
I think they simply just faced a very good team and didn’t come out ready to play. This game can humble you quickly, if not completely prepared and focused. Maybe that’s what happened.
They are still rockstars and will probably take it out on New Zealand Saturday.
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Post by hawkfan on Jul 21, 2021 12:43:50 GMT -5
I do believe their politics over the last couple years has turned off fans. Go back to the previous teams i.e. the 96 Gold medal team. I do not recall any politics. It was all about the game. Go research on other platforms and see the fans who now have quit watching.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jul 21, 2021 12:55:22 GMT -5
I do believe their politics over the last couple years has turned off fans. Go back to the previous teams i.e. the 96 Gold medal team. I do not recall any politics. It was all about the game. Go research on other platforms and see the fans who now have quit watching. IMO, the fans you're talking about weren't really fans to begin with. They're the fringe fans that watch when we make the finals of a World Cup or Olympics, not the ones who watch a friendly vs. Mexico as a tuneup for a tournament. I'm not saying they didn't lose any of their "real"/longtime fans. I'm sure there are some out there. But enough for their TV ratings to drop? I doubt it. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Jul 21, 2021 13:09:17 GMT -5
I do believe their politics over the last couple years has turned off fans. Go back to the previous teams i.e. the 96 Gold medal team. I do not recall any politics. It was all about the game. Go research on other platforms and see the fans who now have quit watching. IMO, the fans you're talking about weren't really fans to begin with. They're the fringe fans that watch when we make the finals of a World Cup or Olympics, not the ones who watch a friendly vs. Mexico as a tuneup for a tournament. I'm not saying they didn't lose any of their "real"/longtime fans. I'm sure there are some out there. But enough for their TV ratings to drop? I doubt it. You are 100% incorrect. I enjoyed following the team for decades, including taking my family to Canada to watch WC matches. The past two years or so has turned into an unwatchable mess - all about me - watch me - I'm special - we hate our country - watch me some more. I could care less about someone's individual politics, personal life, etc. Just play the game. But when the game becomes a platform for their political views, it's a problem. Other than a handful of players, the majority of them are dead to me. They are a freaking embarrassment. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 21, 2021 13:16:49 GMT -5
Good thing the Olympics have never been political...
Except Jesse Owens.. and Tommie Smith and John Carlos.. and boycotting 1980.. and Russia boycotting 1984.. and...
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jul 21, 2021 13:26:29 GMT -5
IMO, the fans you're talking about weren't really fans to begin with. They're the fringe fans that watch when we make the finals of a World Cup or Olympics, not the ones who watch a friendly vs. Mexico as a tuneup for a tournament. I'm not saying they didn't lose any of their "real"/longtime fans. I'm sure there are some out there. But enough for their TV ratings to drop? I doubt it. You are 100% incorrect. I enjoyed following the team for decades, including taking my family to Canada to watch WC matches. The past two years or so has turned into an unwatchable mess - all about me - watch me - I'm special - we hate our country - watch me some more. I could care less about someone's individual politics, personal life, etc. Just play the game. But when the game becomes a platform for their political views, it's a problem. Other than a handful of players, the majority of them are dead to me. They are a freaking embarrassment. Okay but you're ONE family. I even said that I'm sure they've lost some fans like yourself. The point is whether or not they're losing enough fans for their TV ratings to drop. I don't think they are. And BTW, if your takeaway from their opinions is that they "hate our country", you clearly weren't listening. |
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Post by randomparent on Jul 21, 2021 13:33:30 GMT -5
You are 100% incorrect. I enjoyed following the team for decades, including taking my family to Canada to watch WC matches. The past two years or so has turned into an unwatchable mess - all about me - watch me - I'm special - we hate our country - watch me some more. I could care less about someone's individual politics, personal life, etc. Just play the game. But when the game becomes a platform for their political views, it's a problem. Other than a handful of players, the majority of them are dead to me. They are a freaking embarrassment. Okay but you're ONE family. I even said that I'm sure they've lost some fans like yourself. The point is whether or not they're losing enough fans for their TV ratings to drop. I don't think they are. And BTW, if your takeaway from their opinions is that they "hate our country", you clearly weren't listening. So how do the select players for the Olympics, do they vote their players on or are these the best we got? Why are there not better younger players? |
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Jul 21, 2021 14:02:04 GMT -5
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Post by papacoach on Jul 21, 2021 14:02:04 GMT -5
At least Megan Repinoe said what majority of ppl were saying.. “we got our A$$es kicked, didn’t we?”.. “Did we expect this result tonight? No”
United States looked lost and confused in Olympic opener
Above can be found on ESPN main page ..
On Friday at 7:30am, New Zealand, a team that played one competitive match in 498 days and a bottom feeder in many brackets should be what team USA needs to shore up a spot to possibly advance.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jul 21, 2021 14:13:45 GMT -5
Okay but you're ONE family. I even said that I'm sure they've lost some fans like yourself. The point is whether or not they're losing enough fans for their TV ratings to drop. I don't think they are. And BTW, if your takeaway from their opinions is that they "hate our country", you clearly weren't listening. So how do the select players for the Olympics, do they vote their players on or are these the best we got? Why are there not better younger players? Head coach picks them. Obviously he's getting advice from his staff and other higher ups with the USWNT and the US Olympic Committee, but he chooses the team. We have a lot of very good young players. But the Olympics does not allow the same size roster as does the World Cup. So in choosing this group, he went with more veterans, several of whom won't be on the team during the next round of WC qualifying. |
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Post by justwatching on Jul 21, 2021 15:43:26 GMT -5
I do believe their politics over the last couple years has turned off fans. Go back to the previous teams i.e. the 96 Gold medal team. I do not recall any politics. It was all about the game. Go research on other platforms and see the fans who now have quit watching. I don't understand people that preach "shut up and just play the game". When are people allowed to have opinions and use their platform to help with change regardless of what their beliefs are? Did you stop watching the Bundesliga and Premier league too as many of those players take a knee at that beginning of the games. How about the rule in the Euros that stopped the game when racist chants rung through the stadium and the potential to postpone a match and play it with no fans? Was that unnecessary and should just play the game and move on? At what point can an athlete have an opinion and say I'm using my platform to try and make a change? And to your point of some people stop watching because of the protests the players practice there are probably just as many if not more that watch now because of the players being vocal. They lost so what. All teams eventually lose. It only matters if they keep losing. |
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Post by atv on Jul 21, 2021 16:03:46 GMT -5
I didn’t see the game. Are they saying Ertz is 100% now? A healthy Ertz at holding mid makes a huge difference in these types of games. I always thought she was the most underrated player on the USWNT. Rapinoe is probably the most overrated IMO.
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Post by soccerloafer on Jul 21, 2021 16:50:04 GMT -5
Final comment on this thread. National teams, regardless of sport, are supposed represent the best of the nation, uniting a broad and diverse fan base toward one goal.
The current iteration of the USWNT falls far short of that ideal. I would posit that the split political opinions within the team are creating tension, perhaps below the surface, that is impacting training, teamwork, chemistry, etc.
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