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Post by mightydawg on May 4, 2023 13:35:10 GMT -5
Congratulations to the following state champs:
A Div 1--Mt. Vernon
A Div 2--Aquinas
2A--Fellowship Christian
3A--Oconee Co.
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Post by bolo on May 4, 2023 13:38:41 GMT -5
Holy cow, you’d think this was a play from a WC final game. I keep clicking on this thread when a new reply is posted, thinking it’s about some of the results from this week. 🤣🤣 Seriously, so many threads on this board go off on unrelated tangents, and this one is clearly no exception. I realize I was part of that discussion earlier, but would definitely like to see it get back to the actual games being played, especially now that the finals are being played this week. As far as the games go, North Oconee/Westminster tonight looks really intriguing. Both have been very strong over the past few seasons (and longer for Westminster). Westminster is missing one of their superstar players, but is very solid all around. In the other game tonight, my guess is Chamblee rolls, they're a machine right now. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 4, 2023 13:53:38 GMT -5
Holy cow, you’d think this was a play from a WC final game. I keep clicking on this thread when a new reply is posted, thinking it’s about some of the results from this week. 🤣🤣 Seriously, so many threads on this board go off on unrelated tangents, and this one is clearly no exception. I realize I was part of that discussion earlier, but would definitely like to see it get back to the actual games being played, especially now that the finals are being played this week. As far as the games go, North Oconee/Westminster tonight looks really intriguing. Both have been very strong over the past few seasons (and longer for Westminster). Westminster is missing one of their superstar players, but is very solid all around. In the other game tonight, my guess is Chamblee rolls, they're a machine right now. Agreed on Chamblee. I noticed just from Concorde’s social media posts that Chamblee has EIGHT girls on their team currently playing on either Concorde’s 06 or 07 ECNL teams. Two from Premier and the rest from Platinum. Good lord. And I’m sure they have players from other good teams and other age groups. |
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Post by bolo on May 4, 2023 14:35:02 GMT -5
Seriously, so many threads on this board go off on unrelated tangents, and this one is clearly no exception. I realize I was part of that discussion earlier, but would definitely like to see it get back to the actual games being played, especially now that the finals are being played this week. As far as the games go, North Oconee/Westminster tonight looks really intriguing. Both have been very strong over the past few seasons (and longer for Westminster). Westminster is missing one of their superstar players, but is very solid all around. In the other game tonight, my guess is Chamblee rolls, they're a machine right now. Agreed on Chamblee. I noticed just from Concorde’s social media posts that Chamblee has EIGHT girls on their team currently playing on either Concorde’s 06 or 07 ECNL teams. Two from Premier and the rest from Platinum. Good lord. And I’m sure they have players from other good teams and other age groups. I think it might be 9 from CF ECNL Platinum & Premier in the 06 & 07 age groups alone, and even more when you add in the older ages, just from Concorde. Plus other clubs, like you said. Yeah, that team is stacked. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 4, 2023 14:40:26 GMT -5
Agreed on Chamblee. I noticed just from Concorde’s social media posts that Chamblee has EIGHT girls on their team currently playing on either Concorde’s 06 or 07 ECNL teams. Two from Premier and the rest from Platinum. Good lord. And I’m sure they have players from other good teams and other age groups. I think it might be 9 from CF ECNL Platinum & Premier in the 06 & 07 age groups alone, and even more when you add in the older ages, just from Concorde. Plus other clubs, like you said. Yeah, that team is stacked. Yeah I just added up the girls they (Concorde) wished good luck to in their social media posts and it came to 8 from 06/07 Plat/Prem but maybe they left someone off from one of those teams. Feels like a Kirby Smart team . . . 😉 |
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Post by knownothingabtsoccer on May 4, 2023 15:15:36 GMT -5
If folks on this thread would get certified as referees and officiate games there would be greater depth in the referee pool, such that the best of the lot would rise to referee the most important games. The referee in the Lovett/WM can be criticized for making the correct or incorrect call, but the call was made. They are human, underpaid, and for the most part under-trained. What do you expect? On a related note, we (including me) need to give referees more grace from the sidelines. When we subject the refs to constant fan abuse, why would any sharp/skilled ref, often times just reffing to give back or make a little cash, even want to do the job? We are such an entitled lot, expecting world cup level refs for youth soccer. Agree 99% - but fyi, there are at least 3 certified refs on this thread (including me). I imagine we all agree with your points on giving refs grace, but it does bother me when a ref clearly loses control of a game and refuses to do the things that de-escalate increasingly violent actions. Injuries in the last 15 mins of the game in question were entirely predictable and that is what upset me. Certification does not necessarily mean competent for the occasion. |
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Post by knownothingabtsoccer on May 4, 2023 15:19:23 GMT -5
I think it might be 9 from CF ECNL Platinum & Premier in the 06 & 07 age groups alone, and even more when you add in the older ages, just from Concorde. Plus other clubs, like you said. Yeah, that team is stacked. Yeah I just added up the girls they (Concorde) wished good luck to in their social media posts and it came to 8 from 06/07 Plat/Prem but maybe they left someone off from one of those teams. Feels like a Kirby Smart team . . . 😉 Marist is equally stacked and tied Chamblee in the regular season. Girls up and down the roster on ECNL, GA, and NL teams. Some just are naturally great athletes too. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 4, 2023 15:23:37 GMT -5
Yeah I just added up the girls they (Concorde) wished good luck to in their social media posts and it came to 8 from 06/07 Plat/Prem but maybe they left someone off from one of those teams. Feels like a Kirby Smart team . . . 😉 Marist is equally stacked and tied Chamblee in the regular season. Girls up and down the roster on ECNL, GA, and NL teams. Some just are naturally great athletes too. My daughter plays at Pius so I’m well aware of Marist’s talent. Have some friends on that team too. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on May 4, 2023 17:43:21 GMT -5
If the GHSA wanted to help they'd try and implement video replay in the playoffs like they just did for football. Good/bad refs or the lackthereof aside, if they truly cared about getting the calls right and there is the ability to do so then do it.
If any of you have had contact with Dr Robin Hines like I have you'd know he does not give any impression that he cares about addressing this issue in soccer games, but the highest profile sport (football) have more eyes on the sport and broadcast on TV so they're pressured into doing the right thing.
I can go on a rant against the GHSA and the bad calls we've all seen that make or break games all day, but when NFHS is broadcasting the game the 4th ref has the ability to review and can put something like goals and red cards under review. Once the game ends that's it, the GHSA doesn't even want to listen to the complaints.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 4, 2023 21:42:22 GMT -5
Congrats to the WCA girls team tonight, they were clearly the better team.
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Post by bulldawgsoccer on May 5, 2023 0:19:48 GMT -5
Congrats to Chamblee on winning back 2 back 5A state titles and making history for DeKalb County! OH YEAH thanks to Midtown and McIntosh for the extra motivation. What will they say now?! 
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Post by jamsoccer on May 5, 2023 0:55:36 GMT -5
9-0 is such a crazy score line- i expect they will be back-to-back-to-back champs next yr- congrats to all of the players 🏆 i hope their next win is a little more competitive. 8-1 & 9-0, come on Chamblee let us be on the edge of our seats for at least one half 😂 |
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Post by weltzumerr on May 5, 2023 4:30:39 GMT -5
Marist is equally stacked and tied Chamblee in the regular season. Girls up and down the roster on ECNL, GA, and NL teams. Some just are naturally great athletes too. My daughter plays at Pius so I’m well aware of Marist’s talent. Have some friends on that team too. Hi there! Welcome to the forum! I completely agree that the GHSA should be doing more to ensure that calls are made correctly. It's so frustrating when you're watching a game and you know the ref has made a mistake, but you can't do anything about it. Video replay seems like the obvious solution, so it's great that football is now taking advantage of it. I understand your feelings towards Dr. Hines, but I think it's important to not give up hope. If enough people continue to voice their opinion, the GHSA may eventually be forced to make a change. Until then, we can keep the conversation going and hope that something will eventually be done. |
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Post by corditedad on May 5, 2023 9:58:18 GMT -5
GHSA really needs be more thoughtful about how they put together brackets. Greenbriar was undefeated, but played a really lackluster Region I schedule without facing any truly competitive teams. Yet their path through the playoffs was easily the least competitive, while McIntosh, Midtown(2), Chamblee(1), and Cambridge(3) had to battle it out on the other side of the bracket. After watching Greenbriar play last night, I seriously doubt that they would have gotten through any of the top four teams on the other side of the bracket. It was soul crushing for the Greenbriar team and their fans and somewhat dangerous, as the game started to get away from Greenbriar the players got frustrated and really physical. It appeared that the ref was hesitant to penalize Greenbriar given the direction of the game and Greenbriar continued to escalate the physical contact leading to two pretty bad injuries for each side in the final 15 minutes. Chamblee started pulling starters with about 20 minutes to go, otherwise it probably would've ended as a mercy ruling. @bulldawgsoccer. Was it McIntosh that tried to fabricate a violation against Chamblee using a bunch of cobbled together screen shots of tournament rosters from Sync Sports? It's amazing how petty some people can be. There should be some type of penalty for falsely reporting a school for violations or, worse yet, fabricating evidence. |
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Post by rocko1989 on May 5, 2023 10:15:42 GMT -5
GHSA really needs be more thoughtful about how they put together brackets. Greenbriar was undefeated, but played a really lackluster Region I schedule without facing any truly competitive teams.
Playoff brackets are identical throughout all sports in GHSA. It is not just soccer where there can be a disparity in talent, thus a lopsided result in a championship game.
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Post by bolo on May 5, 2023 10:17:30 GMT -5
GHSA really needs be more thoughtful about how they put together brackets. Greenbriar was undefeated, but played a really lackluster Region I schedule without facing any truly competitive teams. Yet their path through the playoffs was easily the least competitive, while McIntosh, Midtown(2), Chamblee(1), and Cambridge(3) had to battle it out on the other side of the bracket. After watching Greenbriar play last night, I seriously doubt that they would have gotten through any of the top four teams on the other side of the bracket. It was soul crushing for the Greenbriar team and their fans and somewhat dangerous, as the game started to get away from Greenbriar the players got frustrated and really physical. It appeared that the ref was hesitant to penalize Greenbriar given the direction of the game and Greenbriar continued to escalate the physical contact leading to two pretty bad injuries for each side in the final 15 minutes. Chamblee started pulling starters with about 20 minutes to go, otherwise it probably would've ended as a mercy ruling. @bulldawgsoccer. Was it McIntosh that tried to fabricate a violation against Chamblee using a bunch of cobbled together screen shots of tournament rosters from Sync Sports? It's amazing how petty some people can be. There should be some type of penalty for falsely reporting a school for violations or, worse yet, fabricating evidence. You would be giving GHSA way too much credit to suggest they would even think about or consider something like you suggested. They just set the brackets the exact same every year for every classification in every sport (other than sports like lacrosse that don't have the same region structure) and put zero thought or care into what would actually produce the most competitive or fair matchups. For example, in 6A girls, all four teams from Region 7 advanced to the final 8. Three of the four teams from Region 4 made it, and one from Region 3. Several 1 seeds from weaker regions were beaten (often handily) by lower seeds from strong regions in either the 1st or 2nd round. It's terribly imbalanced, and they know going in it's going to be, but they do nothing to prevent it. 6A boys tennis was even worse- the final 8 was completely composed of 4 teams each from Regions 4 & 7. |
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Post by bulldawgsoccer on May 5, 2023 11:03:04 GMT -5
GHSA really needs be more thoughtful about how they put together brackets. Greenbriar was undefeated, but played a really lackluster Region I schedule without facing any truly competitive teams. Yet their path through the playoffs was easily the least competitive, while McIntosh, Midtown(2), Chamblee(1), and Cambridge(3) had to battle it out on the other side of the bracket. After watching Greenbriar play last night, I seriously doubt that they would have gotten through any of the top four teams on the other side of the bracket. It was soul crushing for the Greenbriar team and their fans and somewhat dangerous, as the game started to get away from Greenbriar the players got frustrated and really physical. It appeared that the ref was hesitant to penalize Greenbriar given the direction of the game and Greenbriar continued to escalate the physical contact leading to two pretty bad injuries for each side in the final 15 minutes. Chamblee started pulling starters with about 20 minutes to go, otherwise it probably would've ended as a mercy ruling. @bulldawgsoccer. Was it McIntosh that tried to fabricate a violation against Chamblee using a bunch of cobbled together screen shots of tournament rosters from Sync Sports? It's amazing how petty some people can be. There should be some type of penalty for falsely reporting a school for violations or, worse yet, fabricating evidence. YES it was McIntosh, AD reported the false claim. At the end of the day it’s the kids out there winning the games, and GROWN ADULTS, lying on other kids so their kids can get a win. 🤦 |
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Post by Oceanready on May 5, 2023 14:15:33 GMT -5
Congrats to all the teams and especially the Chamblee girls that worked hard this season and proved that they truly are champions. I got a chance to watch them play this season and they really have some talent on that team. The North Oconee vs Westminster game was good, and I feel that if North had more time on the clock, they could have scored again, but excellent players both teams.
Good matchups tonight in 6A and 7A.
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Post by fanatic21 on May 5, 2023 14:30:32 GMT -5
GHSA really needs be more thoughtful about how they put together brackets. Greenbriar was undefeated, but played a really lackluster Region I schedule without facing any truly competitive teams. Yet their path through the playoffs was easily the least competitive, while McIntosh, Midtown(2), Chamblee(1), and Cambridge(3) had to battle it out on the other side of the bracket. After watching Greenbriar play last night, I seriously doubt that they would have gotten through any of the top four teams on the other side of the bracket. It was soul crushing for the Greenbriar team and their fans and somewhat dangerous, as the game started to get away from Greenbriar the players got frustrated and really physical. It appeared that the ref was hesitant to penalize Greenbriar given the direction of the game and Greenbriar continued to escalate the physical contact leading to two pretty bad injuries for each side in the final 15 minutes. Chamblee started pulling starters with about 20 minutes to go, otherwise it probably would've ended as a mercy ruling. @bulldawgsoccer. Was it McIntosh that tried to fabricate a violation against Chamblee using a bunch of cobbled together screen shots of tournament rosters from Sync Sports? It's amazing how petty some people can be. There should be some type of penalty for falsely reporting a school for violations or, worse yet, fabricating evidence. You would be giving GHSA way too much credit to suggest they would even think about or consider something like you suggested. They just set the brackets the exact same every year for every classification in every sport (other than sports like lacrosse that don't have the same region structure) and put zero thought or care into what would actually produce the most competitive or fair matchups. For example, in 6A girls, all four teams from Region 7 advanced to the final 8. Three of the four teams from Region 4 made it, and one from Region 3. Several 1 seeds from weaker regions were beaten (often handily) by lower seeds from strong regions in either the 1st or 2nd round. It's terribly imbalanced, and they know going in it's going to be, but they do nothing to prevent it. 6A boys tennis was even worse- the final 8 was completely composed of 4 teams each from Regions 4 & 7. I do think it is good that GHSA sets up the brackets so that teams from the same region won't meet until the semi-finals (if they make it)? I do, however, think they could mabye figure out a way to make it so the that top 4 ranked teams wouldn't meet until the semi-finals either. Think there were a few classifications where top 4 ranked teams met in the 2nd round or the quarterfinals (and as Bolo mentioned, in 5A girls the top 3 teams were all on the same half of the bracket, and the 2 who were probably the best, Chamblee and Cambridge, met in the quarterfinals). There are states that do reseed the playoffs based on Maxpreps rankings (which include strenght of schedule). It shouldn't be that hard to reseed and still scatter the teams in the same region into different quadrants. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 5, 2023 15:42:40 GMT -5
You would be giving GHSA way too much credit to suggest they would even think about or consider something like you suggested. They just set the brackets the exact same every year for every classification in every sport (other than sports like lacrosse that don't have the same region structure) and put zero thought or care into what would actually produce the most competitive or fair matchups. For example, in 6A girls, all four teams from Region 7 advanced to the final 8. Three of the four teams from Region 4 made it, and one from Region 3. Several 1 seeds from weaker regions were beaten (often handily) by lower seeds from strong regions in either the 1st or 2nd round. It's terribly imbalanced, and they know going in it's going to be, but they do nothing to prevent it. 6A boys tennis was even worse- the final 8 was completely composed of 4 teams each from Regions 4 & 7. I do think it is good that GHSA sets up the brackets so that teams from the same region won't meet until the semi-finals (if they make it)? I do, however, think they could mabye figure out a way to make it so the that top 4 ranked teams wouldn't meet until the semi-finals either. Think there were a few classifications where top 4 ranked teams met in the 2nd round or the quarterfinals (and as Bolo mentioned, in 5A girls the top 3 teams were all on the same half of the bracket, and the 2 who were probably the best, Chamblee and Cambridge, met in the quarterfinals). There are states that do reseed the playoffs based on Maxpreps rankings (which include strenght of schedule). It shouldn't be that hard to reseed and still scatter the teams in the same region into different quadrants. The biggest issue here is, rankings based on what, and from where? I know you mentioned MaxPreps, but their rankings aren't always the greatest, and at times teams move a lot based on the most recent results. Since they are national, a lot of their rankings start out based on reputation, and it is difficult for teams to move a lot. There are other, more local rankings, but they can vary greatly. Unfortunately nothing is going to be perfect. At least they have the brackets out ahead of time so teams know where they are going to be, as opposed to releasing matchups & brackets after all regular season games are played. Personally I am more annoyed by the coin flip for home field when 2 teams with the same ranking play one another. I think this should be done at the beginning of the school year and posted before teams are even placed into the brackets. Another option is to just standardize that the top team or the bottom team will host for the school year when the same seeds play one another. |
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Post by junebug on May 5, 2023 17:42:16 GMT -5
Roswell 2-0 over Marist!
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Post by Oceanready on May 5, 2023 17:47:58 GMT -5
Congrats to the Roswell girls and coaches for winning 6A. A #4 Region seed to play a team like Marist and win 2-0 is amazing. Region 7-6A is stacked.
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Post by bulldawgsoccer on May 5, 2023 18:37:36 GMT -5
Congrats to the Roswell girls and coaches for winning 6A. A #4 Region seed to play a team like Marist and win 2-0 is amazing. Region 7-6A is stacked. Crazy thing is Chamblee beat the 6A champ 4-0 and 7A champ 5-0 hmmmm, |
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Post by nole95 on May 5, 2023 18:43:24 GMT -5
Denmark beats Walton in PKs after 0-0 in regulation.
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Post by mistercalcio on May 5, 2023 18:50:45 GMT -5
Congrats to the Roswell girls and coaches for winning 6A. A #4 Region seed to play a team like Marist and win 2-0 is amazing. Region 7-6A is stacked. Crazy thing is Chamblee beat the 6A champ 4-0 and 7A champ 5-0 hmmmm, Like 6 weeks ago, right? Also, can you share enough bandwidth to let other schools celebrate their own wins? |
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Post by bulldawgsoccer on May 5, 2023 19:01:23 GMT -5
Crazy thing is Chamblee beat the 6A champ 4-0 and 7A champ 5-0 hmmmm, Like 6 weeks ago, right? Also, can you share enough bandwidth to let other schools celebrate their own wins? My bad you’re right! Congrats to the others that won the chip! |
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Post by fanatic21 on May 5, 2023 23:03:34 GMT -5
Congrats to the Roswell girls and coaches for winning 6A. A #4 Region seed to play a team like Marist and win 2-0 is amazing. Region 7-6A is stacked. Crazy thing is Chamblee beat the 6A champ 4-0 and 7A champ 5-0 hmmmm, But Chamblee also tied the 6A runners-up. Soccer can be a funny game. That being said, I do think Chamblee is the best overall girls team in the state this year and imagine they will be next year as well. I don't think any of those girls on the CF ECNL teams (I think at least 9 of them) are graduating. Not a whole lot of competition in 5A for them. 6A or 7A would be much tougher, but they'd still be the favorites to win those classifications as well. Pretty impressed with Roswell Hornets though. I'm not sure if they have any ECNL players. And if they do, I don't think they start. Pretty sure the entire starting line-up is Roswell Santos DPL players (if not all, at least 9 or 10 of them). |
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Post by soccerwatcher9 on May 6, 2023 11:01:08 GMT -5
GHSA really needs be more thoughtful about how they put together brackets. Greenbriar was undefeated, but played a really lackluster Region I schedule without facing any truly competitive teams. Yet their path through the playoffs was easily the least competitive, while McIntosh, Midtown(2), Chamblee(1), and Cambridge(3) had to battle it out on the other side of the bracket. After watching Greenbriar play last night, I seriously doubt that they would have gotten through any of the top four teams on the other side of the bracket. It was soul crushing for the Greenbriar team and their fans and somewhat dangerous, as the game started to get away from Greenbriar the players got frustrated and really physical. It appeared that the ref was hesitant to penalize Greenbriar given the direction of the game and Greenbriar continued to escalate the physical contact leading to two pretty bad injuries for each side in the final 15 minutes. Chamblee started pulling starters with about 20 minutes to go, otherwise it probably would've ended as a mercy ruling. @bulldawgsoccer. Was it McIntosh that tried to fabricate a violation against Chamblee using a bunch of cobbled together screen shots of tournament rosters from Sync Sports? It's amazing how petty some people can be. There should be some type of penalty for falsely reporting a school for violations or, worse yet, fabricating evidence. YES it was McIntosh, AD reported the false claim. At the end of the day it’s the kids out there winning the games, and GROWN ADULTS, lying on other kids so their kids can get a win. 🤦 I thought it was Midtown that pulled those shenanigans on Chamblee last year. I know it was a sweet victory when Chamblee beat Midtown 3-0 this year.  |
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Post by hereforthedrama on May 6, 2023 13:36:23 GMT -5
Crazy thing is Chamblee beat the 6A champ 4-0 and 7A champ 5-0 hmmmm, But Chamblee also tied the 6A runners-up. Soccer can be a funny game. That being said, I do think Chamblee is the best overall girls team in the state this year and imagine they will be next year as well. I don't think any of those girls on the CF ECNL teams (I think at least 9 of them) are graduating. Not a whole lot of competition in 5A for them. 6A or 7A would be much tougher, but they'd still be the favorites to win those classifications as well. Pretty impressed with Roswell Hornets though. I'm not sure if they have any ECNL players. And if they do, I don't think they start. Pretty sure the entire starting line-up is Roswell Santos DPL players (if not all, at least 9 or 10 of them). All but three girls on that roster are Santos DPL! |
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Post by bulldawgsoccer on May 7, 2023 14:11:58 GMT -5
YES it was McIntosh, AD reported the false claim. At the end of the day it’s the kids out there winning the games, and GROWN ADULTS, lying on other kids so their kids can get a win. 🤦 I thought it was Midtown that pulled those shenanigans on Chamblee last year. I know it was a sweet victory when Chamblee beat Midtown 3-0 this year. Correct, Midtown last year and Mcintosh tried to fabricate something this year. #entitlement |
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