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Post by soccer888 on May 7, 2023 15:24:21 GMT -5
But Chamblee also tied the 6A runners-up. Soccer can be a funny game. That being said, I do think Chamblee is the best overall girls team in the state this year and imagine they will be next year as well. I don't think any of those girls on the CF ECNL teams (I think at least 9 of them) are graduating. Not a whole lot of competition in 5A for them. 6A or 7A would be much tougher, but they'd still be the favorites to win those classifications as well. Pretty impressed with Roswell Hornets though. I'm not sure if they have any ECNL players. And if they do, I don't think they start. Pretty sure the entire starting line-up is Roswell Santos DPL players (if not all, at least 9 or 10 of them). All but three girls on that roster are Santos DPL! Santos has always had very good teams. They get overlooked because it's a small club in this area of giants. |
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Post by messindreams on May 7, 2023 23:20:05 GMT -5
Santos is underrated imho, beautiful style of play. They do a great job with developing kids, especially on the girls side.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 8, 2023 7:17:02 GMT -5
GHSA really needs be more thoughtful about how they put together brackets. Greenbriar was undefeated, but played a really lackluster Region I schedule without facing any truly competitive teams. Playoff brackets are identical throughout all sports in GHSA. It is not just soccer where there can be a disparity in talent, thus a lopsided result in a championship game. Northgate gave them a run for their money in the semi-finals, so they weren't completely skating through the bracket. Northgate was a very underrated team on the girls side this season. |
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Post by randomparent on May 8, 2023 8:52:03 GMT -5
Crazy thing is Chamblee beat the 6A champ 4-0 and 7A champ 5-0 hmmmm, But Chamblee also tied the 6A runners-up. Soccer can be a funny game. That being said, I do think Chamblee is the best overall girls team in the state this year and imagine they will be next year as well. I don't think any of those girls on the CF ECNL teams (I think at least 9 of them) are graduating. Not a whole lot of competition in 5A for them. 6A or 7A would be much tougher, but they'd still be the favorites to win those classifications as well. Pretty impressed with Roswell Hornets though. I'm not sure if they have any ECNL players. And if they do, I don't think they start. Pretty sure the entire starting line-up is Roswell Santos DPL players (if not all, at least 9 or 10 of them). It would make you wonder if ECNL is as special as people think. Also, why does ECNL keep blocking Santos from joining. |
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Post by bolo on May 8, 2023 9:17:49 GMT -5
If no one else is going to say it…there were other factors to Roswell winning the state championship. If you think that it was because they had a full roster of DPL players (none of which are going to play in college), you are mistaken. And, the ECNL teams from Concorde, UFA, GSA, etc…and the GA teams from TopHat would beat the DPL teams from Roswell Santos. What are these other factors you’re so cryptically alluding to? You said, “If no one else is going to say it,” then you don’t actually say anything either! |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 8, 2023 9:31:13 GMT -5
If no one else is going to say it…there were other factors to Roswell winning the state championship. If you think that it was because they had a full roster of DPL players (none of which are going to play in college), you are mistaken. And, the ECNL teams from Concorde, UFA, GSA, etc…and the GA teams from TopHat would beat the DPL teams from Roswell Santos. I haven’t seen the game but I spoke with a Marist player and parent afterwards and they said Marist had a lot of shots on goal but just couldn’t find the back of the net. I know after watching both Roswell and Marist in prior games that the result totally surprised me. Roswell is a very good team, I just thought Marist was better. Like they always say, that’s why you play the games. |
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Post by soccer888 on May 8, 2023 9:40:11 GMT -5
If no one else is going to say it…there were other factors to Roswell winning the state championship. If you think that it was because they had a full roster of DPL players (none of which are going to play in college), you are mistaken. And, the ECNL teams from Concorde, UFA, GSA, etc…and the GA teams from TopHat would beat the DPL teams from Roswell Santos. I don't know who is at Roswell High School, but based on their social media, Santos has 6 girls committed to play in college so far this year. Misinformation isn't necessary for you to feel good about yourself |
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Post by knownothingabtsoccer on May 8, 2023 10:52:31 GMT -5
Can we speak to McEachern HS hosting a number of the finals? That place was deplorable. Stadium is in disrepair and filthy. With the rain on Friday it was precariously slippery. As to the field, even those of us in the stands could see it was in terrible condition. Players on the field said it felt like concrete. GHSA should hold state championships in first class HS facilities, not run down stadiums that are only chosen for size. Let's not talk about security. Thankfully, nothing violent occurred. Hopefully, GHSA sets some base hosting standards.
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Post by SoccerParent8 on May 8, 2023 12:45:37 GMT -5
One of the 6 plays for RHS and she did not play in the final.
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Post by bolo on May 8, 2023 12:58:02 GMT -5
Can we speak to McEachern HS hosting a number of the finals? That place was deplorable. Stadium is in disrepair and filthy. With the rain on Friday it was precariously slippery. As to the field, even those of us in the stands could see it was in terrible condition. Players on the field said it felt like concrete. GHSA should hold state championships in first class HS facilities, not run down stadiums that are only chosen for size. Let's not talk about security. Thankfully, nothing violent occurred. Hopefully, GHSA sets some base hosting standards. Heard the same from a parent (who played high level college soccer) that was at the Marist-Roswell final. Said it was a really fast, bouncy turf that made controlling the ball more difficult than you're used to seeing at this level, especially with the rain thrown in. Honestly, stadium capacity shouldn't even be a major consideration in choosing venue. Let's be realistic, you're not getting thousands of fans to show up for a high school soccer final, especially when the venue is unlikely to be convenient for either or both teams. Focus should be on the condition of the field & surrounding venue. |
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Post by knownothingabtsoccer on May 8, 2023 13:10:03 GMT -5
If no one else is going to say it…there were other factors to Roswell winning the state championship. If you think that it was because they had a full roster of DPL players (none of which are going to play in college), you are mistaken. And, the ECNL teams from Concorde, UFA, GSA, etc…and the GA teams from TopHat would beat the DPL teams from Roswell Santos. I don't know who is at Roswell High School, but based on their social media, Santos has 6 girls committed to play in college so far this year. Misinformation isn't necessary for you to feel good about yourself Marist did not take a lot of shots on goal, but when they did they were way off target desperation shot or they were soft. Roswell played a great game. Whether Marist was frustrated by the conditions, tactics, or both doesn't matter. Roswell is a good team and played as one. It appeared that Roswell had a game plan and stuck to it. Both teams, though, are worthy of recognition for great seasons. Roswell just gets to be recognized as state champs. On to next year. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 8, 2023 13:34:51 GMT -5
Can we speak to McEachern HS hosting a number of the finals? That place was deplorable. Stadium is in disrepair and filthy. With the rain on Friday it was precariously slippery. As to the field, even those of us in the stands could see it was in terrible condition. Players on the field said it felt like concrete. GHSA should hold state championships in first class HS facilities, not run down stadiums that are only chosen for size. Let's not talk about security. Thankfully, nothing violent occurred. Hopefully, GHSA sets some base hosting standards. For some reason McEachern is used for a lot of GHSA events. I notices the 2A & 7A State Track & Field Championships are at McEachern this week. Interestingly enough, the 4 sites are in Albany, Columbus, Powder Springs & Rome. I'm thinking Duluth HS, or something else in southern Gwinnett would have been a better option. Also, what's up with the $15 ticket fee for soccer while track is only $8? I don't want to hear the 2 games excuse either for soccer. Both those games would typically be played in less time than all the events for track. |
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Post by bolo on May 8, 2023 13:49:09 GMT -5
I don't know who is at Roswell High School, but based on their social media, Santos has 6 girls committed to play in college so far this year. Misinformation isn't necessary for you to feel good about yourself Marist did not take a lot of shots on goal, but when they did they were way off target desperation shot or they were soft. Roswell played a great game. Whether Marist was frustrated by the conditions, tactics, or both doesn't matter. Roswell is a good team and played as one. It appeared that Roswell had a game plan and stuck to it. Both teams, though, are worthy of recognition for great seasons. Roswell just gets to be recognized as state champs. On to next year. Heard the same. Basically, Marist may have been overall the better team, in terms of talent and the season they had (undefeated with only 2 draws until the final against a challenging schedule), but Roswell was also strong and played the better game on that day. I also heard that Roswell's keeper was very strong and arguably the best Marist faced all year, which can obviously be a major factor in a one-game scenario. Roswell deserved to win the game, and it wasn't fluky. Congrats to them. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 8, 2023 14:58:18 GMT -5
Sounds like I was given a pretty biased, pro-Marist version of the game. What I was told made sense to me because of what I saw from both teams previously. Either way, kudos to Roswell for their state championship.
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Post by soccerloafer on May 8, 2023 16:17:47 GMT -5
Can we speak to McEachern HS hosting a number of the finals? That place was deplorable. Stadium is in disrepair and filthy. With the rain on Friday it was precariously slippery. As to the field, even those of us in the stands could see it was in terrible condition. Players on the field said it felt like concrete. GHSA should hold state championships in first class HS facilities, not run down stadiums that are only chosen for size. Let's not talk about security. Thankfully, nothing violent occurred. Hopefully, GHSA sets some base hosting standards. For some reason McEachern is used for a lot of GHSA events. I notices the 2A & 7A State Track & Field Championships are at McEachern this week. Interestingly enough, the 4 sites are in Albany, Columbus, Powder Springs & Rome. I'm thinking Duluth HS, or something else in southern Gwinnett would have been a better option. Also, what's up with the $15 ticket fee for soccer while track is only $8? I don't want to hear the 2 games excuse either for soccer. Both those games would typically be played in less time than all the events for track. Track meets are $8 a day and can go as many as 3 days depending on which events your athlete does and if they progress to the final day. Regional / sectional / state meets are hosted by schools with 8 lane tracks. Most schools are 6. The McEachern track complex is at the back of the school with separate parking and facilities, actually pretty nice. |
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Post by rifle on May 8, 2023 20:13:43 GMT -5
Pretty impressed with Roswell Hornets though. I'm not sure if they have any ECNL players. And if they do, I don't think they start. Pretty sure the entire starting line-up is Roswell Santos DPL players (if not all, at least 9 or 10 of them). It would make you wonder if ECNL is as special as people think. Also, why does ECNL keep blocking Santos from joining. That is a good question. Politics and money run soccer in this country.. so I’d go with politics since Roswell seems to have some money - but having been part of Santos when Mike F came over from GSA I have to say the long term plan is looking pretty good. I’m happy for him/them. Also heard the 10 year old turf is being replaced this year.. and at least one more park is getting turf. |
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Post by kickpuncher on May 8, 2023 20:36:14 GMT -5
It would make you wonder if ECNL is as special as people think. Also, why does ECNL keep blocking Santos from joining. That is a good question. Politics and money run soccer in this country.. so I’d go with politics since Roswell seems to have some money - but having been part of Santos when Mike F came over from GSA I have to say the long term plan is looking pretty good. I’m happy for him/them. Also heard the 10 year old turf is being replaced this year.. and at least one more park is getting turf. The two main answers are money and availability. Here's a real example from a different sport. Basketball had their final 4 round this year at the new arena at Georgia State. It's a top notch, new facility. Everyone that went or played there loved it. The lighting, floor, seating, locker rooms, parking, sound, and in arena experience are great regardless of comparison. The people that played there would be near 100% in voting for that place to host as much basketball as possible as often as possible. Two big issues - 1. It cost a pretty big chunk of change. 2. Because of GA State basketball seasons and the potential for post-season play (practices and potentially hosting games), the Final 4 round was known to be open and available but the Finals days could have been possible needed by the school for the school teams. As unlikely as that possibility may have been, the school wants to ensure that their teams can play at home if the chance arises. Instead of GA State, the finals were played at the Macon Coliseum. This is a building that could be charitably described as showing it's age poorly. This is a building that just a few years ago mismeasured the location of the goal for multiple finals games which impacted the outcomes to an almost comical degree. The lighting is poor (and went out at least twice during finals games), the sound is not good, the floor is OK, the locker rooms leave players feeling like they are in a crime scene, the seats are bad, etc. It's located two hours away from every school that could have reasonable expected to make the Finals in the largest classification. In every measurable way except two, it's a much worse choice to host games. Those two reasons? It's inexpensive and it's very available. The same story could be said for the other locations that hosted the finals (FVSU, West Georgia, etc). Each of those locations is poorly situated but they have open calendars and cost a pittance compared to the desired locations. You can rest assured the same story holds true for McEachern as an option when compared to those optimal locations you all might want. We can complain all we want relative to each sport, but availability and price are going to win the day nearly every time. |
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Post by diamondmid on May 9, 2023 13:40:06 GMT -5
That is a good question. Politics and money run soccer in this country.. so I’d go with politics since Roswell seems to have some money - but having been part of Santos when Mike F came over from GSA I have to say the long term plan is looking pretty good. I’m happy for him/them. Also heard the 10 year old turf is being replaced this year.. and at least one more park is getting turf. The two main answers are money and availability. Here's a real example from a different sport. Basketball had their final 4 round this year at the new arena at Georgia State. It's a top notch, new facility. Everyone that went or played there loved it. The lighting, floor, seating, locker rooms, parking, sound, and in arena experience are great regardless of comparison. The people that played there would be near 100% in voting for that place to host as much basketball as possible as often as possible. Two big issues - 1. It cost a pretty big chunk of change. 2. Because of GA State basketball seasons and the potential for post-season play (practices and potentially hosting games), the Final 4 round was known to be open and available but the Finals days could have been possible needed by the school for the school teams. As unlikely as that possibility may have been, the school wants to ensure that their teams can play at home if the chance arises. Instead of GA State, the finals were played at the Macon Coliseum. This is a building that could be charitably described as showing it's age poorly. This is a building that just a few years ago mismeasured the location of the goal for multiple finals games which impacted the outcomes to an almost comical degree. The lighting is poor (and went out at least twice during finals games), the sound is not good, the floor is OK, the locker rooms leave players feeling like they are in a crime scene, the seats are bad, etc. It's located two hours away from every school that could have reasonable expected to make the Finals in the largest classification. In every measurable way except two, it's a much worse choice to host games. Those two reasons? It's inexpensive and it's very available. The same story could be said for the other locations that hosted the finals (FVSU, West Georgia, etc). Each of those locations is poorly situated but they have open calendars and cost a pittance compared to the desired locations. You can rest assured the same story holds true for McEachern as an option when compared to those optimal locations you all might want. We can complain all we want relative to each sport, but availability and price are going to win the day nearly every time. Silverbacks Park. Or any number of high schools with better facilities than McEachern. |
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Post by randomparent on May 9, 2023 14:42:39 GMT -5
The two main answers are money and availability. Here's a real example from a different sport. Basketball had their final 4 round this year at the new arena at Georgia State. It's a top notch, new facility. Everyone that went or played there loved it. The lighting, floor, seating, locker rooms, parking, sound, and in arena experience are great regardless of comparison. The people that played there would be near 100% in voting for that place to host as much basketball as possible as often as possible. Two big issues - 1. It cost a pretty big chunk of change. 2. Because of GA State basketball seasons and the potential for post-season play (practices and potentially hosting games), the Final 4 round was known to be open and available but the Finals days could have been possible needed by the school for the school teams. As unlikely as that possibility may have been, the school wants to ensure that their teams can play at home if the chance arises. Instead of GA State, the finals were played at the Macon Coliseum. This is a building that could be charitably described as showing it's age poorly. This is a building that just a few years ago mismeasured the location of the goal for multiple finals games which impacted the outcomes to an almost comical degree. The lighting is poor (and went out at least twice during finals games), the sound is not good, the floor is OK, the locker rooms leave players feeling like they are in a crime scene, the seats are bad, etc. It's located two hours away from every school that could have reasonable expected to make the Finals in the largest classification. In every measurable way except two, it's a much worse choice to host games. Those two reasons? It's inexpensive and it's very available. The same story could be said for the other locations that hosted the finals (FVSU, West Georgia, etc). Each of those locations is poorly situated but they have open calendars and cost a pittance compared to the desired locations. You can rest assured the same story holds true for McEachern as an option when compared to those optimal locations you all might want. We can complain all we want relative to each sport, but availability and price are going to win the day nearly every time. Silverbacks Park. Or any number of high schools with better facilities than McEachern. KSU's stadium would be perfect. Great venue, and the location is close to where most of the top soccer high schools are. |
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Post by atlcoach84 on May 9, 2023 17:40:04 GMT -5
I think Emory's grass stadium field was used a few years ago as well for State Finals games?
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Post by randomparent on May 9, 2023 19:28:29 GMT -5
I think Emory's grass stadium field was used a few years ago as well for State Finals games? No reason to make all the teams head downtown for a game. Keep it up in Cobb. |
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Post by BubbleDad on May 10, 2023 14:58:50 GMT -5
Hold up hold up ... Marist did not make the Roswell goalie sweat. Most goals shot on target, went right to the Roswell goalie! The CBs were asleep for Marist. Wide open shots by Roswell unchecked and then they are up 0-2 ... FINALLY Marist shifted their players around and muted all scoring.
Roswell's outside backs only kicked the ball out of play! Nothing technical. Roswell's attacking mid won the game for them PERIOD. Slide tackling, feeding the forwards.
Back to Marist's defense ... they had a defender on the bench that is a good player and she never played which allowed Roswell's forwards to eventually run wild.
Let's see how Roswell does once a lot of their premium seniors are gone.
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Post by Keeper on May 10, 2023 16:06:37 GMT -5
It would make you wonder if ECNL is as special as people think. Also, why does ECNL keep blocking Santos from joining. That is a good question. Politics and money run soccer in this country.. so I’d go with politics since Roswell seems to have some money - but having been part of Santos when Mike F came over from GSA I have to say the long term plan is looking pretty good. I’m happy for him/them. Also heard the 10 year old turf is being replaced this year.. and at least one more park is getting turf. Just curious if anyone knows where Mike F is landing after being fired from Santos? Seems the city overseers didn’t them to run like a club and more like a Parks and Rec Dept. |
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Post by Keeper on May 10, 2023 16:10:34 GMT -5
Silverbacks Park. Or any number of high schools with better facilities than McEachern. KSU's stadium would be perfect. Great venue, and the location is close to where most of the top soccer high schools are. Pretty sure between KSU’s asking price, their soccer and football programs and Atl United 2 this isn’t an option. Time for that soccer specific stadium in Atlanta. Just put it next to that billion dollar arena in Alpharetta. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 10, 2023 17:06:43 GMT -5
I second the Silverbacks option. Adding alcohol to the mix will only make it more interesting.  Also, moving the finals to a weekend would be a good move. Less ATL traffic to have to deal with. I'd like to see the HS season DONE the final week of April. With finals and club ID camps ramping back up, ending in May is just too hectic. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 10, 2023 17:46:39 GMT -5
Unrelated question...why is it so difficult to find All-Region team lists? Often they're behind paywalls and articles that have partial lists of the players local to that county's schools.
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Post by rifle on May 10, 2023 21:03:18 GMT -5
That is a good question. Politics and money run soccer in this country.. so I’d go with politics since Roswell seems to have some money - but having been part of Santos when Mike F came over from GSA I have to say the long term plan is looking pretty good. I’m happy for him/them. Also heard the 10 year old turf is being replaced this year.. and at least one more park is getting turf. Just curious if anyone knows where Mike F is landing after being fired from Santos? Seems the city overseers didn’t them to run like a club and more like a Parks and Rec Dept. fired? |
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Post by Oceanready on May 10, 2023 22:20:18 GMT -5
Unrelated question...why is it so difficult to find All-Region team lists? Often they're behind paywalls and articles that have partial lists of the players local to that county's schools. Good question, this list is usually published online by local newspapers for schools within their county and/or region. If you go to the www.georgiahighschoolsoccer.com website, they used to keep track of soccer stuff and players, but the website now may not be updating. However, it appears that they did add an “All State Team” list, not sure if it is complete as several schools are missing. To see the list, go to the website, click on the three lines up top, then scroll way down to the 2023 section for boys and girls. |
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Post by Keeper on May 10, 2023 22:25:40 GMT -5
Just curious if anyone knows where Mike F is landing after being fired from Santos? Seems the city overseers didn’t them to run like a club and more like a Parks and Rec Dept. fired? Yes city of Roswell let Mike F go on April 28. Haven’t noticed the mass exodus of coaches from there? It was not a santos decision but a city one. The city wanted him to implement all this new policies and protocols that they’re making all the other sports do, and he wouldn’t because they don’t make soccer sense. |
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Post by junebug on May 12, 2023 18:44:51 GMT -5
Hold up hold up ... Marist did not make the Roswell goalie sweat. Most goals shot on target, went right to the Roswell goalie! The CBs were asleep for Marist. Wide open shots by Roswell unchecked and then they are up 0-2 ... FINALLY Marist shifted their players around and muted all scoring. Roswell's outside backs only kicked the ball out of play! Nothing technical. Roswell's attacking mid won the game for them PERIOD. Slide tackling, feeding the forwards. Back to Marist's defense ... they had a defender on the bench that is a good player and she never played which allowed Roswell's forwards to eventually run wild. Let's see how Roswell does once a lot of their premium seniors are gone. Goal 1, freshman. Goal 2, sophomore. Fantastic goalie, sophomore. A+ coaching. I think they'll be a team to watch. |
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