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Post by spectator on May 26, 2017 22:44:54 GMT -5
Wasted trip to Columbus to play 3 ATL Metro teams in pool. All 16 in bracket from metro. Love for someone to do the math of percentage of ATL Metro teams vs other parts of state. My prediction is over 90%. Well, yeah - most teams are from Atlanta. Unless your age group has Savannah, Augusta, Macon, Athens or South Georgia in it - and face it, those clubs don't have the strongest teams to consistently be in State Cup year over year in every age group. The mega clubs are in Metro Atlanta - UFA, NTH, Concorde, etc. They field more teams in State cup so statistically yes, you'll play the same teams you played in RPL or Classic/Athena in Spring/Fall. The argument to move State Cup to Atlanta rears up every year. Its not a conspiracy to screw anyone over - there's some kind of deal regarding field space with Columbus - at least the fields are large enough to accommodate in one/two locations. To hold this tournament in metro Atlanta, you'd need multiple fields and for coaches with more than one team, it'd be a traffic nightmare on Memorial Day weekend. Maybe once Lakepoint is finished with the fields and hotels, it'll move there - but that could be a few more years. Just wait until you play U18/U19 you get to play in Metro Atlanta - south of the city in the middle of the week on one of the most congested routes in the area to get there.
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Post by spectator on May 26, 2017 10:06:30 GMT -5
Coach, especially at the younger ages (say U14 and below). If a player's goals are college soccer and/or beyond though, competition may have to become the priority at the older ages. Club, aside from reasonable location is the least of my concerns - but of course some clubs generally have higher levels, some because of DA and/or ECNL. Coaches still play a vital role in getting college looks. We know good players on high level RPL teams who have zero college prospects because their coach or team manager did little to no prep work before or have handouts for coaches during key tournaments (Disney/CASL) or showcases - of their club offered no classes or guidance to parents and players about the process. College coaches don't just fall into players' laps because of the level they are - prior to Junior year, the club coach is a vital liaison between player and college prospective coach. We know girls who play or played ENCL who don't have as many college prospects as their counterparts on RPL or even Athena A teams - being on the level team doesn't guarantee you a college coach looking at you - in this case, the girls don't play that much on these ENCL teams but their parents want them on that level team versus perhaps playing RPL and actually playing. A good example I can give - a friend's daughter has been on an Athena B team most of her soccer career but she has had a great coach for the past 3 years - who, about two years ago, asked the players what their goals were. For those who wanted to play beyond high school, he got them in touch with schools that fit their level and educational goals - smaller D3, D3, 2-year, etc. Every girl on that team (granted not that many - about 4) will go on to play soccer at a smaller school all because that coach gave them that option and knew how to make the contacts and guide them. The kid with the skills to play high level D1 may not need that kind of guidance, but the majority of players aren't that level and if a kid wants to play at the college level, there ARE schools for almost every level - just make sure the academics is in line with the ultimate career goal the kid has and a good club coach can help tremendously in this process. IMO - the coach is still the most important component regardless of the age - younger to develop the skills, later on to help in the process if the end goal is to play in college.
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Post by spectator on May 26, 2017 6:29:02 GMT -5
COACH!!!! A good coach regardless of club or level of competition is most important to us. A good coach will get a team to a higher level by developing players and the team and RETAINING those players
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Post by spectator on May 19, 2017 16:34:27 GMT -5
OK honest question - If you've never seen them play, how do you know they aren't at the same level as the other teams? The 'division' a team plays in isn't always reflective of the 'level' of the team. There are ECNL or SRPL teams that Athena A teams can and have beaten. SRPL teams have fallen to RPL Division 1 teams in tournaments and other games. Remember - on any given day . . . Yes - on AVERAGE - an SRPL team is most likely a higher performing team than a division below them - but to make the broadbrushed statement about the quality of Division 1 RPL isn't exactly a fair and accurate representation of the teams. Just like assuming any ECNL team is superior to any RPL team just by nature of being in a different league.
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Post by spectator on May 19, 2017 14:07:45 GMT -5
That Roswell girls team a few years ago was a story similar to Ga Uniteds u14s and Concorde u13s this year. Didn't they start off at like Athena c and win their way up to RPL. Once they got to rpl they lost the magic unfortunately, assuming they lost players and didn't they have a few injures? Either way great story!!!! If I'm not mistaken I think they Also tied or beat an ecnl team in a spring preseason tourney one of those years Yes - in Fall 2013 that particular team got hosed with placement and put in CD. They trounced quite a few teams and got moved to Athena B in Spring. They won that handily and moved up to Athena A Fall. They finished 5th behind the four teams that were put into RPL. In Spring they won U14 Athena A but didn't get the word they'd be RPL that Fall until several key players left. I think they struggled in RPL and with the age mandate and other factors, most of that original team has moved on to other RPL level teams. It was quite a Cinderella story at the time, though. If Roswell is producing some strong younger teams now, good for them. And I hope they can keep them together. The boys teams may have less success but they also tend to have less drama and players leaving. The OP has boys so Santos may be a good fit. Regarding the comment Maybe for the mega clubs, 1st Division teams are 2nd teams, but not for all - that's a pretty broad blanket statement. Granted UFA has nine thousand teams and their second or even third may be in 1st division but even Concorde and NTH have first teams in 1st Division - check your facts.
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Post by spectator on May 18, 2017 14:24:43 GMT -5
So, the girls' side has fielded RPL teams in recent years, the boys haven't. Believe me, I know that isn't the only metric. And yes, there are definitely rules/regs that city staff have to abide by, and they also have to be accountable to the taxpayers. I would just say as an example, look at the LAX tournament in Roswell every year - those involved discovered a true partnership with the City, within the same confines. And look at the City of Alpharetta's program: They had Super Y at the peak of its significance. I believe the current state boils down to the people involved and their willingness to find workable solutions for the older teams. You're right- it depends on the metric used. The girls have fielded one RPL team - but the coach and most of those players that earned that spot have now left the club. Retaining top talent on the girls side is something Roswell has lacked for years. The boys - while not achieving RPL status - have won Classic 1 at least once and those teams tend to stay together longer than the girls side does so they have the retention thing down but not the achievement - yet. Depends on which metric you want to use - 'success' or longevity.
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Post by spectator on May 18, 2017 12:40:42 GMT -5
So I have to say in response, not to be argumentative is that the girl side has been more successful at Santos. Also to add, the City Recreation and park system is great, but the administration of the soccer program by certain individuals is exactly the reason why kids move on to other clubs as they age. To your case in point, no tournaments. I have to disagree that the administration of the parks and rec is the reason kids move on - most of the kids and even most parents - are pretty far removed from that group. In their defense, the administration is held accountable by the taxpayers of the City of Roswell not the soccer club so some decisions may seem boneheaded to soccer parents but may well be in the best interest of the taxpaying citizen of Roswell. I don't agree with most of what they did or didn't do (lack of tournaments) but that group was not the reason we left.
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Post by spectator on May 18, 2017 10:55:55 GMT -5
ga3v3, thanks for sharing your personal experience. fanatic21, wow, that's a ton of great insight! Coach Q is who we met last night, seemed like a nice guy. Coach Janny Rivera and Ben Tayi are listed as 2005 boy coaches at Rush, but neither has bio listed. I am planning to make calls today and tomorrow to see if I can get some more specific info from the clubs regarding development philosophy and various other questions. The hard part is sifting the information and popular talking points that all clubs like to say from what plays out in reality. There are some good coaches at Santos - Q is a good guy and makes soccer fun for the kids. Overall Santos has a very good program for younger ages and probably stronger on the boys side. Like rifle said, they tend to lose kids at older ages for various reasons but that's not a reflection on the level of coaching at younger ages. The city of Roswell Recreation Department is incredible - that's who runs the facilities and they are gorgeous - combination of turf and grass and very very well maintained. Pity they don't rent them out for local tournaments but that's a government thing. One other slight downside to the Santos soccer program is the residency requirement for teams - at least half a team roster must be city of Roswell residents - limits an already limited playing pool. Rush has a good national reputation and the indoor facility so you won't miss as many practices as those clubs with only grass fields
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Post by spectator on May 15, 2017 8:33:40 GMT -5
Received a response from GA Soccer. Guest players are NOT allowed. I know for a fact that they are allowed, because last year a team i know used an ECNL player from another club because they didn't have enough players due to injuries. So like spectator said, ECNL players are not registered with GA soccer so I guess they can add them to their roster. And even players from another club that are non encl can be "transfered" How many transfers can I have on my team?
You may have 5 previously rostered players on your roster on the date when your roster is named (frozen). What does ‘Previously Rostered’ mean?
A previously rostered player is a player who has been previously rostered to another team during this seasonal year ( September – August). The issue is the word 'Guest' player versus 'Rostered' player. Whereas in regular season tournaments, you can have guests from other teams - you just need permission or at least the player card so you can check into the tournament. For State Cup, it's not as easy as just getting permission and a card - the player must be 'transferred' in the system from Club A to Club B. Additional semantics come into play here when parents ask for a 'release' from a club to play with another. If a player is 'released' they are ineligible to play for any club until after tryouts. Getting the transfer is tricky because it usually means that player won't play for their own team anymore that season - which if their own team isn't going to state cup or has broken up for whatever reason is a valid request. Asking for the transfer just so your kid can be on a winning team for State Cup isn't as valid and probably the reason it's not as easy to get these kind of transfers otherwise State Cup rosters would be a revolving door of players and levels. A club transfer isn't the same thing - a kid on a lower team can be pulled up for State Cup by just putting them on the roster for the tournament - no paperwork needed. And if you are at a club with enough depth, this is a great option. But yes - it's way easier and less drama filled if clubs start getting ECNL players instead because they can just roster them for State Cup as if they'd magically appeared versus needing the paper trail to transfer them. Doesn't make it right - but it happens every single year and once boys ECNL starts, it'll happen there, too. Until USYS or GA Soccer decides to create a policy on this kind of thing, it will keep happening.
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Post by spectator on May 14, 2017 21:59:38 GMT -5
Between that and the group organization I was very disappointed too. I mean U15 girls had 9 teams total so they made 3 groups of three instead of having 2 groups. I don't have a dog in this hunt but there's really no way to divide up 9 teams into two groups that would work. Usually groups are either 3 or 4 or 6. If you had two groups of 4 and 5, that wouldn't be even or a team in the group of 5 would end up with a bye (to make it a group of 6 with a BYE team in there) which always ticks teams in that bracket off to no end with the guaranteed 4-0 win.
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Post by spectator on May 14, 2017 16:24:48 GMT -5
I thought I knew the answer to this one, but our coach raised the question: Since State Cup is a tournament, is it OK to roster a guest player from another club, as long as the player isn't playing for another team in the same tournament (this one being State Cup)? You can use guest players from other clubs in State Cup Only if they are transferred- not released. Of course this does not apply to ECNL club players so you are partially correct
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Post by spectator on May 13, 2017 16:44:43 GMT -5
Thanks! Funny, I always thought Spectator and Allthingssoccer were dads . Definitely hard to tell unless the username says Mom or Dad! Any other moms spending Mother's Day on the fields? I thought Allthingssoccer was a dad too. Im not 100% on spectator so i put a ?? Lol I will be at the fields almost all day! Last time I checked, I am definitely female and a mom! Happy mothers day to all!!!
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Post by spectator on May 7, 2017 17:33:43 GMT -5
We've been very pleased with the training. I believe it is as good as it has always been. Our son chooses it over DA because of the option of playing high school which DA doesn't allow. His practices are now at Atlanta United's training facility so no place can match that. He plays ODP, RPL and his club is joining the boys side of ECNL. I'm glad we have many options for the players in Georgia. Going on record to admit to being insanely jealous of where the boys get to train this spring. We've been trekking it out to RYSA - which is a lovely enough complex but come on - Atlanta United is in our back yard! Throw the girls some love and let us train there, too, Jacob!!!!
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Post by spectator on May 4, 2017 21:54:49 GMT -5
The Pre-ODP camp is an identifier and it does give a leg up but not significantly so use it for what it is - a chance to test drive the ODP way of playing.
I'm very conflicted about ODP right now - been involved with it for a while and I've seen both sides - the benefits of exceptional training and coaching and the politics of who knows who and who gets chosen. That's not exclusive to ODP - that's life. My conflict is about the future of ODP now that there will be Girls DA - even though both ODP and DA are run by USYS - many feel (ODP coaches included) that it's the nail in the coffin for ODP - at least at the older ages.
For the youngers -U12 and below, ODP could serve as a pre-DA identifier and work well with DA even up through U15 as a pre-pool. I'd love to see ODP positioned that way but I'm not in charge so here's hoping. ODP is also a great option for players from outlying clubs who can't or don't want to trek to one of the ECNL or DA clubs to play at that level.
The problem is that what once was the only path to national teams, is now one of many options - DA, ECNL, RPL teams get exposure to college and national scouts. The scouts still attend major ODP events and ODP coaches can still recommend players to attend National ID camps - but it's not what it was when ODP was the only game in town.
The positive parts of ODP are the training and the coaches - exposure to many different coaches - some of whom are coaching at college level. Region Camp and events are also a great way to be seen. And for my player - who will be aging out soon - it's been a great experience to meet other girls and have fun while playing this game she loves. For us, the cost was minimal - you are paying for training sessions and gear - and then the sub regional event and region camp are extra but in relation to what we spend on club fees and travel, ODP is a bargain.
For your U11, I'd recommend ODP. If your player gets the pre-ODP camp invite - definitely go. If your player likes the camp, definitely try out. For that young age group, ODP is great training and the chance to meet players from other clubs - as those friendships form, so can some teammates if you end up moving to another club. At the very least, at the younger ages, position ODP as a great trial run - see what's out there -see what training your player gets - and see where it takes your player with regard to skills and ability.
We've loved ODP but even my player sees the changes coming - and it's sad. She's still proud of her time in ODP but she sees that it's not what it was when we first started. But again - that's life -things change.
Good luck to your player! I hope it's a positive experience and journey!
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Post by spectator on Apr 28, 2017 10:40:59 GMT -5
The real issue is to balance the earnings from being a pro v. cost of college. Your earning potential is greater in soccer to go pro at the youngest age possible but you have to make enough money to either be set for life or be able to pay for college once your pro career is over. The caveat on this - regardless of sport - is that the young player be educated on financial planning and budgeting. Having a great sum of money with little to no discipline or guidance is a recipe for disaster. There are many former NFL and NBA players who are broke now after having great financial success at young ages. One I personally know of - William (the Refrigerator) Perry - great player for Clemson University and left school to enter the draft, He signed with the Chicago Bears, did well and even scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl - but today is working paycheck to paycheck as a plumber in SC. And no, he never went back to college. There was an article about him a few years back in the Columbia SC paper and he expressed regret at not knowing how to budget or plan better for the future beyond his sport. He wasn't bitter - just very matter of fact and I believe he's reached out and advised some young athletes in the area where he lives. The best thing that anyone could do for these super young athletes with the opportunity to earn money before college is teach them about finances and planning for their future.
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Post by spectator on Apr 27, 2017 21:56:05 GMT -5
7-0 in a first round playoff game? Damn what a way to end the year. Maybe one of these days the adults will figure out how to evenly distribute High school teams based off skill level and not population... Couple more lopsided games in 7A: www.ghsa.net/2016-2017-ghsa-class-aaaaaaa-girls-state-soccer-tournament-bracketWalton 8 - Wheeler 0 Lassiter 6 - Newnan 0 Some good high seeded teams will go out in the next round based on the matchups - should be some good soccer games - and definitely not blowouts! Walton vs Peachtree Ridge South Forsyth vs Hillgrove Lassiter vs Grayson And in 6A even more blowouts - www.ghsa.net/2016-2017-ghsa-class-aaaaaa-girls-state-soccer-tournament-bracketRichmond Hills 10 - Forest Park 0 Johns Creek 10 - South Paulding 0 Alpharetta 7 - Douglas County 0 Harrison 7 - Habersham 0 Pope 6 - Alexander 1 Wild ride on the girls side.
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Post by spectator on Apr 26, 2017 13:33:24 GMT -5
At 11 or 12 they are really still learning the details of the game - stringing passes, seeing the field, foot skills, 1v1, 1v2 etc. I'm not now nor was I back when my kid was U12 a fan of putting 11 year olds on the full field. They aren't strong enough to accurately cross passes and really work the entire field. Even at U13, they're still only 12 years old and they're not all the same size, shape, skill level yet. Playing up a year would be hard - socially and physically - and most kids want to play with their peers.
All I can offer you is what my player experienced - we've been at small and large clubs and the only consistent thing in the equation is the fact that a good coach at a younger age trumps a higher level - meaning if you have an opportunity to play Athena A with a great coach versus RPL with a coach who is juggling 2-3 teams and would recruit a player rather than develop what he has, then go with the better coach. By the time your player hits U15 - let her make the real decision then based on her abilities and long term aspirations (national exposure, identification for national level teams, college scholarships, etc.) Hardest thing for us to remember is that it's their life - their sport - their decision. Don't push to the point of burnout.
Also, it depends on what club you are at now or where you aspire to be. Bigger clubs have more opportunities but the pool is bigger so therefore the competition for those coveted spots are too. Coaching can change on a dime and you never know what you'll end up with. Smaller clubs have more consistency with who may coach an age group for more than one year but the risk is also there for a team to disseminate as it gets older and the talent pool shallows out or kids just lose interest. Weigh it out.
Finally - what works for your family - not just the one player? RPL and ECNL have a lot more travel than Athena - if you have more than one kid or obligations elsewhere on weekends, it's hard on the family to commit to the time and expense of weekend travel almost every weekend..
But that's my experience and life - you make the decision on what yours is and what your kid wants. There are way more options now than there were with my kid was a U12 - which is a good opportunity for you now - but honestly, I'm glad to be almost aging out of this circus. Too many levels and leagues and options - add to that the pressures these kids are under at their schools for test scores and grades, it's just too much to digest. I enter the world of parent to a college athlete in 2018 - I hope that's not as crazy!!! LOL
Good luck to you and your daughter.
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Post by spectator on Apr 26, 2017 6:22:08 GMT -5
Go where the best coaching is AND where she has the most fun. Otherwise you're just pushing her to burnout and hate the sport before she gets to HS. ^^^that up there^^^. AMEN!!! Best advice ever typed on this or any forum.
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Post by spectator on Apr 18, 2017 13:42:48 GMT -5
I would like to see an article about a player like her and what her daily training routine looks like etc. Given that and her national team commitments missing big chunks of classes could be overwhelming mentally and then the $$$. i know of someone in a similar path, at college visit she was told to pick an easy major because with her national commitments she would miss a lot of classes. That seems counter productive because as you said earlier, what if the player gets injured - that 'easy' college major probably won't provide the most lucrative career path. College is still about the education first - soccer second - whether it's D1, D2, D3 or NAIA - the operative word in 'Student-Athlete' is still 'STUDENT'. Statistically speaking only a certain percentage of players will play in college - a smaller number will ever play pro. In Pugh's case, she's got the opportunity early so I can't fault her for reaching for it - but in the case of the example you gave, I think that's irresponsible advice being given to the player. GO to college for what you want to do after soccer - if you're lucky enough to play the game you love while you're there, that's a bonus!
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Post by spectator on Apr 14, 2017 21:37:37 GMT -5
Having followed this board for the past couple of years, I have been impressed by the extensive knowledge with many of the posters here. With that said, I would like to ask your opinions on the topic of possibly changing clubs. Here is the situation.... My daughter, (who is U11 academy) plays for a smaller club that has a pretty decent team. They usually handle other clubs here size with ease, but struggle with the top flight clubs. She is a quality player that matches up well with most of these top clubs, it just the depth of their rosters that makes her team struggle. I like the club we are at (especially it proximity to our house) but I'm worried that as she gets to U13 and the 11 v 11 rosters, the team will become even more diluted with talent (top to bottom) and I want her to have formative competition when she gets to that level. I'm thinking long term of moving to another club so that the talent pool is deeper. My question is, when should that move occur? U12? U13? She gets very good coaching right now and I'm happy with that, but if we were to make a move will it hurt her chances of making the top team at another club if she is not already in their system come U13 tryouts? Or could that benefit her by being some one new showing up at the the U13 tryouts? Any advice or experience with this situation would help. Thank you! My advice/experience/perspective: If you are happy with the club and the coaching she's getting now at U11, give it one more year and play U12 there. U13 tryouts are when a lot of kids from smaller clubs will make the move to larger ones and truth be told, they are given the best looks since they are the newest shiniest kids on the block at tryouts there. Don't burn your bridge at the current club - you may get a good U13 draw but honestly, you are probably right about the dilution of talent by the time you get to 11v11 so keep an open mind and scout out other clubs to tryout for U13. If your current club is able to field a good team and get a good placement - preferably Athena A - you could stay there but you're probably going to end up leaving by U14 anyway since smaller clubs have a harder time keeping teams together as they age. BUT - I'd stay put for the last year of Academy. Be the 'new' kid at U13 and hopefully she'll land on a higher level team at the bigger club. Try out a few places to make sure you get the best placement. However, while she's playing U12 Academy, try to see if any of the bigger clubs you're considering offer camps during the summer or school breaks and make sure you have her attend - to get a feel for the club and the coaches. If she hates either, move on. But at the very least, she'll get a 'test drive' of what the clubs are like. We were in a very similar situation and made the move at U14 - only because the club we started at could not sustain strong teams past U12-U13, My advice - stay at your current club for U12 but be shopping around during that year and know you're most likely leaving by U13.
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Post by spectator on Mar 30, 2017 6:53:35 GMT -5
To answer the "player 18" question
If the training is vastly superior then the higher level will help development even if she is that last player
If not - the game is the best teacher so get on a team where she will have the most playing time and chance to develop her decision making and creativity on the field in real time game situations
The challenge is how do you find that out before tryouts!?
Good luck to you
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Post by spectator on Mar 28, 2017 22:41:51 GMT -5
Thank you in advance for indulging me on this scenario. This is almost like an essay question without a right answer but am hopeful you will not be bashful with opinions and perspectives. Assumption: We have a current 2003 Player who is playing RPL for a big club. And current 2nd year ODP for what it's worth Going Forward: Let's assume she is a likely bubble player for DA or ECNL pending on the club she tries out for with half a chance of being selected on either again pending the club and numbers. What are the considerations that should be taken into account? Obviously it is up to her, not me. But let's assume she is open to any offer she may get. I want to be able to give her the knowledge necessary to make an informed decision. A club that has DA, ECNL and RPL. Is a girl who at best is a bubble player wise to go with a DA offer or in this scenario consider ECNL solely due to the minutes she would be getting? And for that matter, can RPL arguably be the correct choice if playing time was among the top priorities? Other considerations? Development. I am thinking with a club that has DA (players 1-18 or so at the club), ECNL (players 19-36), RPL (players 37-54ish) Are you better off sitting on the bench potentially if you are player 18 or player 33 or playing many more minutes as player 40 at this club? And if you are playing those minutes let's say at RPL, is development stunted because no club can go 40-50 players deep and still be training with the quality needed for development? Also, is this the third best coach at a club that would be RPL? Looking another way, would it be more beneficial to try out (assuming an offer would occur) at a club without BOTH DA and ECNL? As stated above, if a club only has DA or ECNL not both you can then be among players 19-36 (RPL) and thus be training with better players and theoretically have a club's better coach? Or would some of you say get the best offer you can get, if the girl was interested, and potentially ride the bench for most of every game if that offer is at player 18 at a club? She has the club's highest licensed coach, and is training with the club's best players but again not getting minutes come competitive game time. I know some of you can speak to this now as you have girls on ECNL that do not play much? Is it worth it in expense, time and psyche? Or given the option in hindsight would RPL have been better solely for the minutes? Sorry for the wordiness and do not intend to be pretentious here. I am hoping for honest banter now that the system is about to blow up again this June after we thought it was settled. What would you do and why/why not? Thank you I'm going to ask the obvious here - what is the end goal in this scenario? College looks? Being on the best team possible? Playing time for your kid? You're talking about an 8th grader I assume? Lots of time and soccer left - or not left for her so it's a delicate decision. Obvious question #2 - what does SHE want - not you - her? Is she happy with her current team and teammates? What are her goals? I'll echo what many others here have advised - go for the coaching not the level. We have friends in RPL and they hate their coach - many girls are quitting next year because of him. None have college looks - all have been miserable - but they are RPL - yay rah go! We had a player leave our team mid season back at U14 to go play ECNL because they were promised playing time and college looks. She played less than half their games and has zero colleges talking to her. But she was 'ECNL' and daddy is so proud he posts about it all the time. (rolling eyes) It's all about the coach and the team chemistry - so again - what is the end goal here that DA or ECNL could solve? Not being snarky or rude - honestly asking
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Post by spectator on Mar 9, 2017 22:09:25 GMT -5
ON the girls side for ECNL, RPL and Athena tryouts - it depended on the club. Concorde always held separate tryouts for ECNL vs other teams from what I heard.
It will be interesting how DA tryouts are handled. I'm out of that rat race - happy where we are.
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Post by spectator on Feb 26, 2017 21:32:15 GMT -5
You mean the one that became "Chiefs" when SSA gobbled up so many clubs.. and they wanted no part of it? That's the one - but if memory serves, they did play under the Cobb FC East banner for at least a couple of years.
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Post by spectator on Feb 26, 2017 18:49:10 GMT -5
Didn't they try this years ago as Cobb FC East?
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Post by spectator on Feb 25, 2017 20:05:38 GMT -5
LakePoint was funded in part by Coca Cola and isnt finished yet. Its drawing showcases and has been used by NASA for practices and tournament fields. Lots of hotel and retail growth uo there and very easily accessible from 75.
I think we have enough youth sports around here for both venues to succeed
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Post by spectator on Feb 23, 2017 21:34:58 GMT -5
If I'm betting, it'll be in Marietta... Wonder if they'd consider Lake Point? Enough fields to knock out the games early in the day.
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Post by spectator on Feb 22, 2017 23:04:13 GMT -5
It happened when he had to stop the game to give a yellow card to the coach of the other team, the clock person stopped it a few seconds too late. Btw, what is the rule for yellow cards in HS? I heard that players have to come out immediately, but I couldn't find any information on it. How long does the player have to sit out? If a player is given a yellow in a high school match, the player has to leave the field but may re-enter the game. How long that player has to sit out depends on the coach - some will keep them out for the duration - some will immediately sub back in. We had a yellow in a game last week and the player went back in pretty quickly - no balking from the opposing team's coach or referee so it must not be a big deal. Haven't seen a red card in a high school game but I imagine it's immediately leave but no subbing back in - don't know if they have to sit out a game or if they can play the next one.
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Post by spectator on Feb 16, 2017 22:07:17 GMT -5
Doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results = the definition of insanity - or US Youth Soccer - take your pick!
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Post by spectator on Feb 15, 2017 22:20:42 GMT -5
For competition, you are correct - there are enough high level clubs in metro Atlanta to avoid heavy travel. Problem is those teams are too busy travelling to play each other in Georgia. And then the RPL teams will gripe that they have to travel to play each other so it's this vicious cycle. The other argument is why enter a local tournament to pay to play the teams you play during the season anyway - be it Classic/Athena or RPL? So teams travel and how ironic when the same teams travel hundreds of miles to end up playing each other. Again vicious cycle.
HOWEVER - travel to college showcases and key tournaments from U15-U17 is key if you are wanting to get noticed by college coaches. Whether an ECNL event or major tournament, coaches show up at these events and it's the best way for a player to be seen and make contact.
But extensive travel U12-U14 is a money grab and waste of time unless you really have a phenom - so you have to ask yourself is your kid 'that kid' or are you falling into the trap?
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