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Post by hateallthesechanges on Jun 11, 2019 7:22:20 GMT -5
I haven’t seen any of these teams play so am curious- if the SSA NPL 04 and 05 teams won the national championship (which is fantastic-congrats!). What in the world is up with the 06 NPL team that appears to have gone 0-17? Last year's SSA 05 and 06 girls top teams are in ECNL now under Concorde Premier. 05s finished 1st and 06s finished 5th in the Southeast ECNL division. In turn, the 05 and 06 NPL teams this current year were SSA's second teams.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Jun 11, 2019 7:19:01 GMT -5
Opinions galore NPL vs ECNL , how can you judge the 2 if they don’t play each other until ENPL playoffs? Can’t say one is better than the other except for opinion. For girls yes ECNL has been around for a while and still DA trying to pull out an Elite Girls league for GDA but ECNL looks to be thriving as they have always been. However, there are some great girls NPL teams like SSA 04 & 05 girls National Champions. I’m sure they would fair very well in ECNL. For Boys ECNL is new and NPL is working on a transition from a supplemental league to the league of primary competition. However, both leagues are run from US Club Soccer so to them it’s the same amount of $$$ per player. Do they advertise that ECNL is Elite over NPL or do they say NPL is Elite over ECNL? I think not. I haven’t seen any of these teams play so am curious- if the SSA NPL 04 and 05 teams won the national championship (which is fantastic-congrats!). What in the world is up with the 06 NPL team that appears to have gone 0-17?
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Jun 7, 2019 7:56:35 GMT -5
I like 16 too. But I have had two kids on teams with 18 most recently. It does suck when all 18 are there.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Jun 6, 2019 14:42:04 GMT -5
Supposedly TH "got a hold of" an 08 SSA roster. TH proceeded to call at least 10 players and offer them spots sight unseen. After tryouts were over. What?!? I find that hard to believe. It's not like SSA, or any club for that matter, has a collection of talent THAT good... let alone at 10 yrs old. Something doesn't jibe with this "supposed" rumor. TH 08 has never beaten SSA. There was another thread on here about TH 08 being the dream team next year because they acquired the best from SSA, Norcross, GSA... Note that poster never said they were going to be great because of any of their existing TH players. I do believe TH doesn't "steal" players in the dead of the night. Most go willingly because it clearly does have great training and access to national scouts, D1 college scouts... But I do believe some serious recruiting/hard selling does occur.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Jun 6, 2019 14:16:04 GMT -5
TH actually recruited a 10-year old goalie from SSA for the pre-DA team. That is indeed a fact. Supposedly TH "got a hold of" an 08 SSA roster. TH proceeded to call at least 10 players and offer them spots sight unseen. After tryouts were over.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Jun 4, 2019 7:42:10 GMT -5
I’m currently looking at the best option for my daughter (2006). We’ve declined DA invites, simply because it’s not the route my daughter wants. (High school/ basketball). Anyone have any insights on those teams below and the coaches? •Concorde ECNL •UFA Forsyth NPL •UFA Norcross SCCL •GSA ECNL Concorde Premier ECNL got a new coach this year and he's really impressive. He's trying to put together a strong team from what I've heard. I would agree with this. Plus Platinum and Premier tryouts for this age group are combined now. They will pick both teams from the same tryout.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on May 22, 2019 16:12:44 GMT -5
I wouldn't say GSA was the better team because they beat them twice. Kudos to them for figuring out how to play several players deep and if I need to quote "play boom ball" themselves because they NEEDED a result in both games to place 4th in the league. Premier had already clinched 1st in the league with 5 games left to play. They all played the same exact teams the same amount of times so I can't imagine a better barometer of "who is better" than the league standings. I do think the amount of upsets, ties, and surprising scores across the ECNL league shows it is a more competitive environment than DA. Not saying Tophat 05 DA isn't a great team and likely best in the state. Unfortunately we will never know. But if you are beating teams 16-0, that team shouldn't be in the "best" league.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on May 22, 2019 13:20:36 GMT -5
Same in our champions league group. Two games for $675. Ridiculous. And it’s not even a true semi and final from the first weekend because not all of the teams registered for both. Do you mind sharing what are your group is in? U16 Boys
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Post by hateallthesechanges on May 21, 2019 22:16:56 GMT -5
Same in our champions league group. Two games for $675. Ridiculous. And it’s not even a true semi and final from the first weekend because not all of the teams registered for both.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on May 20, 2019 6:47:00 GMT -5
It is kind of ridiculous that no one even knows what you had to do to qualify for the championship brackets. Our Champions age group had 3 groups of 4. So is it winners of each group plus a wild card and then just a semi and final next weekend??? Is it top 2 in each group??? How many games next weekend???
Am I missing something? Seems like the brackets/pathways should have been clearly advertised so you knew what you were playing for. It is also ridiculous requiring teams to pay for both weekends up front. I guarantee no one wants to be playing in a consolation bracket on Memorial Day weekend.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on May 14, 2019 11:59:34 GMT -5
U13G - Concorde Fire Platinum ECNL Second this.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on May 14, 2019 7:17:01 GMT -5
I count 6 ECNL names as well for a total of 18 on the roster. 18 seems like a plenty full roster. One of them is actually an 05 DA DP too. And to put the other half of the ECNL roster on a White team at State Cup! That really is not a good look.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on May 7, 2019 7:29:33 GMT -5
This doesn’t really affect anybody directly outside of these specific TopHat teams. Doesn’t affect other players at different clubs. Just another example of another soccer silo as the competition landscape becomes more and more fragmented. Hopefully, the DPL teams don’t operate in complete isolation from others in Georgia. Good luck to them! Just dam glad we aren’t doing this. Well I would think it is going to create a fair amount of havoc at tryouts at all clubs. These affected girls will be at a minimum exploring other options.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Apr 29, 2019 6:20:42 GMT -5
Please push the button below “quote” and scroll down to “edit”. Then proof-read whatever it is you are trying to say. Hahahaha. I agree.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Apr 8, 2019 15:44:11 GMT -5
Did Tophat ever announce their plans for next year? Last I heard they were telling some ECNL parents they would not have ECNL next year.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Apr 8, 2019 15:41:17 GMT -5
Not to get off topic but in response, every player especially the DA/ECNL type of player need time OFF more than anyone else. I would say three to four weeks at least. Otherwise they are risking mental and physical fatigue and even injury. We often detect similar fatigue in professional players at the World Cup in summer. Their teams are smart enough to give them time off after their WC, in late July during early preseason depending how far their country has gone in the WC finals. So if players are in the Nationals whether ECNL or USYS mid July, it should be a no brainer to completely rest till mid August (before getting into specific preseason conditioning programs), if they want to last another year healthy and in high performance levels. I agree. This is part of the trouble. If you want to do soccer nationals and camps and still rest, how is that possible? I agree too. I don't see why these playoffs can't start Memorial Day and finish by mid June. Even end of June would give us the whole month of July off. And to be honest, more soccer camps are the last thing on my list of things to do in that limited time off. They need a real break and we need family time that does not revolve around soccer for a change. Also agree that having tryouts in the midst of all that definitely throws a wrench in things.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Apr 8, 2019 6:52:01 GMT -5
National "Cup" is different than ENPL or NPL Finals.
National Cup (if that is what SCCL qualifies for) is 7/19-7/23 in Commerce City, CO. I don't have a dog in SCCL so I am not sure who qualifies for what. But National "Cup" is not the same thing as the ENPL pathway.
On the boys side... The top 4 teams in the South Atlantic ECNL division and the top 2 teams in the South Atlantic NPL division qualify for a COMBINED ENPL Playoffs 6/28-7/2 in Rockford, IL. From there, the top 8 teams move on to ENPL Finals 7/11-7/15 in Commerce City, CO.
On the girls side... ECNL and NPL are separate. The top 4 teams in the South Atlantic ECNL division qualify for ECNL Playoffs 6/25-7/1 in San Diego, CA. From there, the top 4 teams from Playoffs move on the ECNL Finals (Semis and Finals only) 7/12-7/14 in Richmond, VA I believe. NPL Finals are 7/11-7/15 in Commerce City, CO. Only the winner from the South Atlantic NPL division qualifies and goes straight to Girls NPL Finals.
This path varies slightly by age group. For example, U13 and U19 are a little different I believe but this is the path for the bulk of the age groups. Don't quote me though.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Mar 25, 2019 11:04:03 GMT -5
About 30 minutes. This is the closest club to us but also provides leagues all of my children are happy with.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Mar 17, 2019 10:30:32 GMT -5
From my understanding (and this comes from no personal experience)... it is not "easy". I believe in most instances where waivers are granted, it's due to a player requirement for aid/scholarship (typically w/ private schools). Some clubs do not grant waivers at all as policy. It's easier and fairer to just deny across the board rather than make allowances for some vs others. That makes sense. This was not a private school. It was a large public high school. The high school does not have him listed on their school website. But he is listed and has highlights on maxpreps.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Mar 17, 2019 10:10:43 GMT -5
Curious... is it easy to just get a waiver for DA players to play high school? We played a high school game against a UFA 04 DA player. He is a full time active DA player. Played DA both weekends surrounding the high school game. Is that common? Easy?
Just thinking if it is as simple as getting a waiver, that may change a few people's minds. Especially for all the private schools strongly encouraging school sports participation.
Yes, I realize that many do not want to play high school in addition to DA and the logistics of the practice schedules would be tough. Just curious how often it is "allowed" if desired.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Feb 11, 2019 11:21:07 GMT -5
Different question for this age group(14) in ECNL.. does U14 ECNL allow a certain number of 2004 U15 players that are 8th graders to play U14 spring? Heard a comment about "3 2004 U15 players playing with their U14 team" for the spring. If so: -what do the rest of the U15 2004 players do in the spring if not in high school soccer? -do some 2005 players get moved off the U14 ECNL team in the spring to make roster room? if so where are they going? Possible I heard wrong, but was interested if accurate. I have also heard there is a "trap player" rule that allows the 2004 8th graders to play "down" on an 05 team since their team is likely done playing for the Spring. I have not seen it in writing yet though. I have also heard it is up to the coaches discretion whether they choose to disrupt their current 05 team to make room for those players. In concept, it is a good rule. It sucks to be an 8th grader with no Spring season. But it would also suck to get bumped or get less playing time to make room for new players as well. Can't win thanks to the birth year mandate.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Jan 30, 2019 8:10:17 GMT -5
Its funny, looking at the Duke women's roster there is an NTH and 2 GSA players. All 3 played ECNL and the NTH played DA her senior year. But looking at their bios, they're GUSHING with HS accomplishments and honors. Its like if you play DA all they say is "played DA". www.goduke.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=4200&SPID=1842&SPSID=22660Do we really want DA players mixing with girls that played HS soccer in college? Is that beneath them? Does it hurt their progress? You can't really look at current college rosters and compare how many played high school. GDA did not exist until the current college freshman's senior year of high school. They all played ECNL at best and most played high school soccer. At least until that last year. People keep saying so and so played high school and did just fine. Well that was all before DA. Don't get me wrong. I am 100% for the ECNL/high school model. My kids can't wait to play for their high school. And in looking at the results and the competition in DA vs ECNL, I believe ECNL is just as good a league, if not better. I'm just saying you can't look at the current college or pro players and compare them to the next generation because times have drastically changed.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Jan 15, 2019 7:52:11 GMT -5
My son was part of a "friendly" season last Spring and no it was not satisfying. Several teams cancelled at the last minute because they couldn't field enough players. Other games never even got scheduled because the coaches didn't really want to work with each other. I think we may have played 4 of the 8 games we were supposed to play. It is extremely unfortunate for the late birthdays in 8th grade. Even worse now that it seems to affect them in 7th grade too.
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NTC's
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Oct 2, 2018 7:14:00 GMT -5
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NTC's
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Oct 1, 2018 12:27:17 GMT -5
Does anyone know if there have been any local NTC sessions yet this season? Girls or boys?
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Sept 8, 2018 7:44:16 GMT -5
The club gives scholarships for club fees. But what about when these families can't/don't pay the TM for the travel fees then? Does the TM divide costs without them so the rest of the team eats that cost??? Yes, I realize club scholarships aren't always based on financial need.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Sept 4, 2018 14:34:19 GMT -5
AFC is doing it across the board. Georgia Soccer just picking and choosing who they give waivers too. AFC is not part of the Big 5 SCCL alliance so Georgia Soccer isn't mad at them.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Aug 17, 2018 6:48:13 GMT -5
SSA 05 and 06 are Concorde Premier. For 04 and up, both Premier and Platinum are Concorde teams. Which one is "better" from a Concorde perspective? Platinum? I believe at Concorde the "top" team is Platinum.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Aug 16, 2018 9:14:09 GMT -5
So I've noticed CF ENCL has a "premier" and a "platinum" team. Which is SSA and which is normal CF? SSA 05 and 06 are Concorde Premier. For 04 and up, both Premier and Platinum are Concorde teams.
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Aug 8, 2018 12:32:06 GMT -5
Would be strange if concorde and ssa were boycotting each other...considering they created an alliance that has SSA using some of CF's ECNL spots. I don't think Concorde and SSA are boycotting each other. Their tournaments are on the same weekend so I am sure both clubs are for the most part attending their own tournament. There are some friendlies scheduled between the two clubs in August.
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