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Post by Keeper on Jan 15, 2021 20:34:36 GMT -5
Allow me to quick recap this thread: Age Mandate Tophat (including impressive callbacks of petitions and shoes) USSoccer/USYS/GA Soccer ECNL/GA Club Soccer/High School Soccer The COST of Soccer Liquor and Lacrosse And a dash of political unrest ALL THAT'S MISSING IS ... CLUB MERGERS AND ACQUISITIONS!!!! I think that sums it up Missing anything else? LOL Did you hear the latest rumor? All of the Atlanta clubs are combining to form one super club. It will be so elite that they will only play inhouse games. Will they also require monthly trips out of state for “better” competition?
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Post by Keeper on Jan 15, 2021 15:35:22 GMT -5
Switching now would mess up their (US youth) planned Championship tournament to start in 2022 as they plan to have teams come from all over the world. You mean the rest of the world that follows an academic year for their youth teams? 🤔
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Post by Keeper on Jan 15, 2021 14:12:54 GMT -5
Perfect -- new age group mandate will lead to more bourbon drinking. the site will switch over in 24 hours. Bourbon? Seriously? What are we lacrosse parents now?
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Post by Keeper on Jan 15, 2021 0:45:15 GMT -5
Hahaha it was this time last year the rumors and discussion started up again. Not gonna be surprised when it goes back to academic year next year. Makes more financial sense.
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Post by Keeper on Jan 15, 2021 0:35:30 GMT -5
I’ve said it for years, until Atlanta builds some type of true soccer venue they’ll never get a women’s team. Nwsl has no intention of putting a team in an indoor arena like Mercedes-Benz.
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Post by Keeper on Jan 10, 2021 14:30:28 GMT -5
Yeah except it’s not for insurance, USSoccer already covers that for both USYS and USClub. Everyone I’ve talked to, including a current Ga Soccer Board Member and an administrator for Region 3 have all said it’s not for insurance. It’s a nickel and dime expense to point out the loss of income to Ga Soccer. I also confirmed with a friend from South Carolina playing ECRL that they don’t have to pay it either, or it’s not worded as a USClub player fee.
Who really knows it’s just another sign of politics still running ODP.
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Post by Keeper on Jan 8, 2021 16:03:12 GMT -5
So to anyone doing ODP this season did anyone get the email from Kosta and Matt saying that if you don’t play for a Ga Soccer club you have to pay $35 extra?
Supposedly 75% of our pool is USClub (SCCL/ECNL/NPL) based so GaSoccer isn’t getting enough of a cut and want more money out of their families.
To anyone who did ODP and ECNL in years past did they make you pay this too??
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Post by Keeper on Jan 6, 2021 21:10:19 GMT -5
I’ve had experience with both sides boys and girls at afc lightning and can’t think of a single bad experience. No matter home or down at McCurry, or if it’s Academy, NPL, Super Y or old fashioned Athena and Classic.
Guess it really just varies.
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Post by Keeper on Jan 5, 2021 23:16:16 GMT -5
Like playing Afc lightning, Impact, Chiefs/RushUnion, CESA, & UFA South GA.
Dislike/Hate playing against NASA girls (not the TH group but the East Cobb Snobs), GSA, Ambush, Red Star, & TYSA.
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Post by Keeper on Jan 4, 2021 11:21:12 GMT -5
Please something other then the butt ugly red and black combo. 🤮🤮🤮
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Post by Keeper on Jan 2, 2021 13:02:52 GMT -5
Just depends on the coach and their background. Striker is more European while most US coaches use the term Forward. Winger from my experience is anyone playing on the outside or wing, so an outside full back, or outside Mid, or Forward. Just playing on the Wing.
Just like the numbering system and formations it all varies depending on the coach. There’s no true uniform way of saying it.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 28, 2020 13:46:30 GMT -5
Is the sizing more on the medium size then large?
That stinks though. It’s crazy how every style, even from the same brand can have such a difference in size and fit.
Not sure if your a Facebook person, but throw it up there on the their marketplace too. We always find random stuff on there and avoid the ebay fees.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 26, 2020 15:04:37 GMT -5
I don't know...not my kid. I was saying "if." Understood. The whole thing reads like the parent is miserable. Yeah definitely sounds more like the parent is wanting the move over the kid. It’s Academy it’s not that big of deal. Go to the closest respected club to your home and kids school. That age is meant to play with yours friends and neighborhood.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 22, 2020 12:57:55 GMT -5
Well the NC event in January is canceled which isn’t shocking considering the Covid issues. Here’s hoping the vaccine works!
Here’s some info we got from our ODP coach today.
NC Sub-regional event: January 9-10 is CANCELLED This is a real blessing in disguise as it opens up opportunities for more and also prepare better for the next event Recommend using this weekend for training of age groups – TBD TN Sub-regional event: January 16-18; MLK, Jr. Holiday weekend 2004 to 2010 All age groups should be planning for least 2 teams each (likely 3 or 4 teams at certain ages and even ALL players possible if available to attend…finalizing this info to ensure proper competition levels are aligned of course) Expect to have teams “stacked” (not balanced); in similar format as the SC friendlies UPDATES and DEVELOPMENTS below: Feb 20-21 Florida Regional Invitational: 2007 – 09 age groups in Auburndale, FL (located between Orlando and Tampa) Both boys and girls Participating: Florida ODP, Georgia ODP, Orlando City FC Academy, Atlanta United Academy (and likely Inter Miami FC Academy) Top two teams likely in tiered groups Expect high level competition Feb 20-21 South Carolina return friendlies event: PENDING, backup to the above for teams that do not travel to FL 2004 – 10 age groups Georgia hosting in Atlanta metro area June 11-13 South Region Sub-Regional invitational (Dallas, TX): 2004 – 10 age groups Regional and MLS scouting opportunity 2 games on Saturday, 1 game on Sunday Limiting invites to the top performing ODP programs in South Region: Georgia ODP, Florida ODP, NC ODP, NTX ODP, STX ODP Expect very good competition July 2021; US Youth Soccer South Region Identification & Invitation Camp: UNC Charlotte is currently the leading host candidate location As many of you know, there is a shift from sending teams to sending individuals from states Players will continue to be identified through the state ODP events and invited to attend in Spring 2021
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Dec 21, 2020 19:20:24 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Dec 21, 2020 19:20:24 GMT -5
Considering the drive, would have liked for the game to be the full time communicated... we were cut short 5 minutes each half. Coach(es) either didn’t notice, care, or we were misinformed. What age group or time?? Must have been an oversight by the Ref as all the games were scheduled on the two hours mark so there was plenty of time for each even with a couple being delayed earlier.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 21, 2020 15:36:02 GMT -5
2010 Boys Gold coach is Craig Gage. New coach to AFU from Nc Fusion this year. Decent coach from what I’ve seen with his 08 ECNL team but he’s adjusting to the AFU ways as Tavani wants all the academy teams playing possession and 4/3/3 style while Gage doenst coach that style yet. For a spring season at AFU id go there if it was closer as they’ll be plenty of extra practice and club passing opportunities. Thank you. What style does Gage coach then? What is a club passing? With the 08s he’s gone from the 4/3/3 that Tavani taught them to a mix of 5/3/2 and 3/4/3 with more of influence of direct over the top play. Club Passing is playing up with the level or age group above you in season. So like a player on the Premier 1 team playing up on the SCCL Club team. Or playing up in age so a U13 Premier 1 player playing up with the U14 Premier 1 team.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 21, 2020 14:33:51 GMT -5
2010 Boys Gold coach is Craig Gage. New coach to AFU from Nc Fusion this year. Decent coach from what I’ve seen with his 08 ECNL team but he’s adjusting to the AFU ways as Tavani wants all the academy teams playing possession and 4/3/3 style while Gage doenst coach that style yet.
For a spring season at AFU id go there if it was closer as they’ll be plenty of extra practice and club passing opportunities.
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ODP
Dec 21, 2020 14:27:07 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Dec 21, 2020 14:27:07 GMT -5
Boys side was decent competition, Refs were good, SC ODP coaches Great but with the rain the fields got the fields were a disaster. One field had a puddle that took up the entire goal box, as well as tons a of muddy spots that the ball just stopped dead in. SC team should have scored and megged our GA Gk but the ball was low and slow and ended up stopping in the puddle before crossing the goal line. Wasnt exactly thrilled to drive 3 hours one way for a game with 18 players but luckily the kiddo got to play 3/4 of the game while others only got one full half. While SC teams typically had 3-4 subs. Not sure why they couldn’t do a two day event (Girls Saturday / Boys Sunday ) to give us two games to justify the 6-7 hour drive. Talking with a couple of the SC odp coaches seems they have a better handle on odp then GA. They have over 10 college coaches on staff so they’re able to essentially do recruiting during this dead period with all these kids because they’re coaching them. Not sure SC United FC was too thrilled with ODP destroying their fields for a one day event either. I agree the fields were horrible, but we can't fault GA for the fields the SC ODP management chooses to use. What age group were you watching? GA looked a lot better than SC in the 9v9 games. SC must have had fewer players because some played more than one game while several from GA did not even make the trip. Don’t fault SC Odp at all about the fields. They delayed a couple of the earlier games to squeegee and sand and do what they can to make them better. It’s just what it is. South Carolina doesn’t have a central location (like Georgia) that is all turf so just glad they got in. If it hadn’t rained Sunday morning the fields would have been great as they had plenty of grass in most. It remainder a lot of adults of our old playing days as we use to play like that a lot. We were there for the 08 Boys and 06 Girls. Talking to Thad Miller who heads SC Odp he did say their girls program has been suffering and they lost a lot of players the last few years. Seems a lot of the Ecnl S Carolina players are not coming back to odp due to various reasons (club not promoting it, too much travel already, not competitive enough). Didnt realize we had any 09s make the trip and play 9v9. That seems like a lot of extra for U12s depending on club commitments already.
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Dec 21, 2020 11:39:22 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Dec 21, 2020 11:39:22 GMT -5
Boys side was decent competition, Refs were good, SC ODP coaches Great but with the rain the fields got the fields were a disaster. One field had a puddle that took up the entire goal box, as well as tons a of muddy spots that the ball just stopped dead in. SC team should have scored and megged our GA Gk but the ball was low and slow and ended up stopping in the puddle before crossing the goal line.
Wasnt exactly thrilled to drive 3 hours one way for a game with 18 players but luckily the kiddo got to play 3/4 of the game while others only got one full half. While SC teams typically had 3-4 subs. Not sure why they couldn’t do a two day event (Girls Saturday / Boys Sunday ) to give us two games to justify the 6-7 hour drive.
Talking with a couple of the SC odp coaches seems they have a better handle on odp then GA. They have over 10 college coaches on staff so they’re able to essentially do recruiting during this dead period with all these kids because they’re coaching them.
Not sure SC United FC was too thrilled with ODP destroying their fields for a one day event either.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 15, 2020 22:06:27 GMT -5
Wenwood Fields were bad, no where near as good as MeSA. Probably shouldn’t have been on some of them due to the rain they had. One field had a 10x10 area at the corner that was nothing but sand.
Refs were some of the worst we’ve had, though the younger ones as ARs did good. Issue was the older Centers who shouldn’t be Ref’ing Rec games.
Competition was very good though, three very good back and forth games against clubs we typically don’t play.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 14, 2020 16:52:24 GMT -5
Nike should replace them if they are less than a year old. My kid always kept the box and receipt. Any issues, Nike always sent him a voucher to use on a new pair. Adidas did not fit my kids foot so do not know if they have the same return policy. Are the vouchers good through just the Nike stores or anywhere? And this works for cleats bought like at Dîcks and Lloyds, not just at Nike right? So wish the kiddos would just wear Copa’s but they’re “too heavy”.
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SCCL Cup
Dec 11, 2020 12:12:31 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Dec 11, 2020 12:12:31 GMT -5
There are plenty of SCCL club teams with 7 and 8 games completed (not named FC Alliance). The past 2 years most were able to get 12-13 games played in the same timeframe. So many trying teams are left trying to crunch in 20% of their season on the last possible weekend. A good share of it is due to FC Alliance and that makes sense. Throughout the season we had a couple 2-3 week stretches without games. We will likely cancel (and possibly not play) our 10th game due to the other team canceling this weekend due to a COVID case on the team. SCCL Cup takes away a possible makeup weekend. Of course, the way COVID is skyrocketing, who knows what will take place in the next month. Good luck trying to cancel a Club to Club game, we were told straight from Nancy it’s a $500 fine on the team. They don’t care when you reschedule it but it has to get played per the rules.
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Dec 10, 2020 22:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Dec 10, 2020 22:51:05 GMT -5
Speaking of SCCL Club, it's disappointing how many teams couldn't complete 10 games, yet many/most of the SCCL Premier teams were able to complete their scheduled games. What do you mean couldn’t complete? What age group or club didn’t play their 10 games?
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Dec 10, 2020 11:28:43 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Dec 10, 2020 11:28:43 GMT -5
I don't know but my son's SCCL-P team in not participating for various reasons. Originally his team and parents were told it was mandatory, but lack of parental and kid interest for it since we were a lower bracket team and chances are we would be put in a bracket where they get beat 5+ goals in all the games forced the club and director's hand (parents always win if they stick together). Second of all this was a horrible weekend to plan it. Regional Futsal tournament is that weekend as well, and a lot of kids sign up for futsal in the winter and that tournament is the high point of them doing futsal, so they were going to do that over outdoor since they didn't know about SCCL Cup being moved until after they had already signed up for futsal. I'm good with them doing an SCCL Cup for the older ages but they need to look at doing it the beginning of December when normal tournaments happen or doing it in late May when High School Soccer is over. The MLK weekend will never be a good weekend for various reasons. Sccl Cup can’t be in December as it has to be at the end of the Fall/Winter season. It also has to be MLK Weekend as Fc Alliance’s girls teams won’t finish their season until the second weekend of January. (Girls Hs soccer is a Fall sport in Tenn). So until ECRL comes in and makes the top level SCCL obsolete in 2 years this is just how it’s going to be.
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Dec 9, 2020 13:23:36 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Dec 9, 2020 13:23:36 GMT -5
Yes hearing Fowler, East Roswell, Brook Run, Franklin Gateway, & Mudcreek being considered as multiple locations. It’ll be like that last true State Cup up here before SCCL, spread across the Northern Suburbs.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 9, 2020 13:15:22 GMT -5
Never seen the shuttlecock thing before but we just got a couple of 2x6s on top of each other and made a kickback wall that we also use for soccer tennis.
That and a couple of tennis balls are a lot cheaper and easier to replace after the dogs have their turn.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 8, 2020 22:48:20 GMT -5
Not just mine but nearly my entire Hs aged club team. I think out of the 7 HS my players go to maybe one have a quality Coach that does more then 442 boom ball over the top coaching. Though with more and more money being poured into Hs soccer it’s bringing in true professional licensed coaches. I’m not sure where you coach or which HS your players go to, but I’d have to assume they aren’t Gwinnett Co HS players. Just some of the teams I’m familiar with playing, North Gwinnett, Peachtree Ridge, Parkview, Brookwood, Collins Hill, Mill Creek, Buford... I’d have to check some others websites to see coaches and bios, but just those alone all have coaches on at least the girls side, if not, girls and boys side that coach club or have coached club. What you may not be taking into account, at public schools, coaches get what they get, they can’t really recruit. Some coaches are lucky and have a consistent stream of players and a healthy pool to pull from. Most schools are fortunate if they have a strong 11 and don’t drop off too much after 2-3 subs. Depth is always a problem in high school sports. My point is, if I have a weak midfield, I might look to miss them out, especially if I’m up against a strong midfield... like say when Grayson was stacked a few years back with multiple future ACC, SEC midfielders/forwards. Unfortunately, some coaches like long ball, but let’s not pretend it only occurs in high school soccer... ever watch the EPL, it’s kinda their thing. My last point, most high school coaches are concerned with 1 thing... winning. Club coaches tend to focus more on “development” or at least that’s what they tell parents. If it’s raining or I’m out matched, you better believe I’m telling my players, we don’t look to possess out of the back, we possess on THEIR side. Just a few thoughts from someone that has played and coached both club and high school soccer. Actually i am in Gwinnett just not the rich side like you. Though my friends in Cobb have the same issues too with teachers coaching soccer instead of coaches coaching soccer. But a majority of my players are inside the perimeter so they don’t have the luxury of being at those rich schools that are definitely athletics first, academics second.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 8, 2020 14:38:28 GMT -5
I would note though that it is getting easier for documents to be altered/ forged. A buddy of mine works for the DHS and has been intercepting hundreds of Chinese made Georgia drivers licenses-they are perfect forgeries made with the same equipment and materials that the state of Georgia uses. (Students are ordering them to get into bars). Just think how much easier and cheaper it would be if we just lowered the drinking age back to 18. Oh the good old days....
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Post by Keeper on Dec 8, 2020 14:36:20 GMT -5
Yea, never understood why GA soccer and then affinity system never required birth certificate certification. I personally not a big fan of birth certificates being tossed around these days, and maybe they were always concerned about the security of these files. US club soccer requires and DA did as well. (DA took it a step further and required international clearance for foreign born players). either way -- if a player doesn't have a birth certificate or proof of age, they should take the steps necessary to get a formal certified document explaining why an formal giving them an age verification? Do schools not require any proof of age or other documents stating a person's age? Hum, intrigued on Jerry, will need to do some searching. There’s definitely a liability issue with birth certificates and Gasoccer. I know we got to the point where TMs were told not even bring them to games anymore, just the Medical release forms in case they were lost or stolen. Also I believe public schools can’t turn any child away even if they don’t have legal documents. That’s one of those things that even if a kid was brought into the country illegally they still have the right to an education. (Which is the way it should be, they’re just kids).
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Post by Keeper on Dec 8, 2020 13:55:00 GMT -5
Yes, or green cards, drivers license and passports work too. But yes it has to be a legal document and uploaded and approved prior to a player being out on the roster/player pass to print. Unlike Ga Soccer which just needs a name, dob and address to be registered. As info, from GA soccer website: Proof of age shall consist of a birth certificate, a Uniformed Services Identification and Privilege Card (DD Form 1173), a birth registration issued by an appropriate government agency, or board of health records, a passport, an alien registration card issued by the United States Government, a certificate issued by the Immigration and Naturalization Service attesting to age, a current driver’s license, an unexpired federal, state, or local government identification card or a certification of a United States citizen born abroad issued by the appropriate government agency. Hospital, baptismal, or religious certificates will not be accepted. See Rule 170.2c for details. Any team playing a player who is over-age shall forfeit the game(s) in which that player takes part. A player may play in their proper age group, or in an older age group. A player may NOT play in a younger age group. For regular-season play, once rostered to a team, a player is considered to be the age of that team. Yep but that’s only if it’s ever asked or requested. But when you register and declare players in SportsAffinity for GA Soccer you don’t need any of that unlike USClub which requires it before approving any player. GaSoccer works on a very old honor system as they never wanted to turn players away in case a document wasn’t available but then people took advantage of it.
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