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Post by Keeper on Apr 26, 2024 14:56:59 GMT -5
"One of the best ideas I heard from a coach was adding more refs to the game like other sports. Imagine an 11v11 game with two centers running a two person system but with ARs on the sidelines so you’d have a ref on each quarter of the field." This would be not as good as it sounds. Florida HS has three whistles (think ARs with whistles instead of flags). Looks really messy. If you think there are inconsistencies in foul calling now, just add more whistles. Soccer is different than most sports because of the discretion allowed by the referee. A foul early might be advantage or no call later. Foul definitions change based on level of play and often within the game depending on the stage / temperature of the players. A hard foul with caution at lower level may be a soft foul or play on at high level... Having multiple whistles would be very hard to sync. Not a fan! One if they can have multiple whistles in a basketball gym then a soccer field is doable. Two, don’t have to have the whistle and could do something like hockey where the foul is recognized but not called/whistled until a stoppage. Either way the current speed of soccer and the way it’s getting faster has outpaced the current system so something has to change.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 26, 2024 14:54:07 GMT -5
Heard he requested to coach the HS aged boys and Mirza told him no as that’s what Garth does, we’ll except the whiny 08s who demanded Yusuf stay are they’d all leave. Sadly AFU loses one of their best coaches over politics. 🤷🏻♂️ So was Alex better than Garth? Garth's teams haven't produced results in the last couple of seasons. Is that due to constant turnover or coaching? Another person replied that he brought in a bunch of new players for the 07 team. On paper it looks like they went from being competitive in the previous season to only 1 win this season. I would think that reflects on the coach and his evaluation of talent. So the question is: if you had a boy that was 06 or 07, would you consider AFU with Garth coaching? Thanks in advance. Depends. I mean he’s better than a lot of coaches but is he better then other options or your current coach?
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Post by Keeper on Apr 25, 2024 21:42:33 GMT -5
What happened to Alex Pineda? Don’t see him coaching any teams. Heard he requested to coach the HS aged boys and Mirza told him no as that’s what Garth does, we’ll except the whiny 08s who demanded Yusuf stay are they’d all leave. Sadly AFU loses one of their best coaches over politics. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Keeper on Apr 25, 2024 21:40:05 GMT -5
As someone who seems to actually know, how much say does the 4th official have? they like ARs that can call what they see and have the Center call it or not? It all depends on the center and how they want to communicate. Good leaders integrate everyone in the crew, bad leaders do not, and it shows. In real time play, the 4th official doesn't have much say, unless the play is right in front of them, and they may nonverbally communicate with the center. After a stoppage or incident, the 4th can provide another opinion on what happened - since they are not running, they sometimes see things better. Not necessarily foul calling, but definitely pointing out misconduct off the ball (warning, caution, or ejection). Good 4th officials also act as an on-field assessor and give feedback at halftime. They can keep foul count, temperature of the game, an eye on trouble makers, etc. They can be a good buffer and calm presence when everyone else is losing their minds. The 4th isn't always the lowest official. In my playoff games this year (as AR or center), all but one of was higher level than me. Love the idea of a 4th official and especially for some of these older refs who can’t stay with the play but sure as hell know how to handle a rude coach or bring another set of eyes to a busy sport. One of the best ideas I heard from a coach was adding more refs to the game like other sports. Imagine an 11v11 game with two centers running a two person system but with ARs on the sidelines so you’d have a ref on each quarter of the field.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 25, 2024 15:46:39 GMT -5
Most duals are requested by schools. GSOA fulfills 90+% requests for 3-man crews. Most unfulfilled are result of ref calling out day of game (it happens - illness, injury, work). The dual system is ok for most JV, but falls apart at Varsity. We're never in the right spot and it's very difficult to affect the game with your personality (consistency of calls, conversations with players on and off the ball, etc.) We hate them as much as everyone else. I tell players it's like the 5v2 drill and we're the 2 in the middle, just trying not to get split every time. Or playing 11 v 8, which is about the right ratio of 3 v 2 refs. If all of you claiming to never work HS would come work, we'd have more good officials... Many games are filmed and assessors do watch as many as possible. Assignment changes do result. 4th official in playoffs keeps the admin off the CR and provides another buffer for coaches and bench activity. Quality of officials is hit or miss, but many good referees. Not all get playoff matches and those assignments are vetted, particularly 2nd round on. I've rarely had an entirely bad crew, usually only one weak link we try to hide. Higher classification games generally get better crews. Come join us! As someone who seems to actually know, how much say does the 4th official have? they like ARs that can call what they see and have the Center call it or not?
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Post by Keeper on Apr 24, 2024 14:26:55 GMT -5
Anyone know why Ambush Girls won’t be continuing in NPL next year? One and done? They following Santos and the DPL route like Impact did.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 22, 2024 16:46:20 GMT -5
Any thoughts on Coach Hugo (AFU) or Coach Jason Smith (UFA) boys?? Jason was great the one year we had him for ODP, and loved playing against him at Norcross. Pretty class act guy and gets a lot out of his boys.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 22, 2024 16:44:38 GMT -5
Concorde ECRL isn’t too bad depending. Probably the typical trip to Greenville & Charlotte in August, Birmingham in October, Jacksonville in Jan, and Nashville in May in addition to the league play. They’ll be 2 showcases that are probably Tenn or SC in there too.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 8, 2024 21:39:32 GMT -5
2 questions: How do kids tryout/make it into the Atlanta United MLS Next team? Is MLS Next "above" ECNL level wise? Gotta be invited to tryout for Atlanta United. And depends on who you ask, but I’d say locally no. Most ECNL teams in Atlanta would beat most the MLSNext ones.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 8, 2024 18:50:38 GMT -5
If Alan is bringing his Ufa 2011s to concorde that will cause quite the shakeup. Ufa is currently first place in the SE. Concorde Plat is 8th and Premier (out of Columbus) is 11th. Eddie with Platinum isn’t going anywhere and Eric with Premier is the head guy at South so doubt he wants his team to drop to RL.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 6, 2024 16:27:05 GMT -5
Any insight on local MLS Next clubs for my 2013 son? Mainly considering Inter Atlanta, SSA and KSA due to logistics. Do all MLS Next clubs also have teams in NAL? You may want to check out the Big 5 ECNL clubs. Competition will likely be better. Those who got MLS Next were in lower leagues than ECNL. Good luck! And the travel can’t be beat for first tier soccer. Six clubs in Atlanta and then 3 games in SC.
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Post by Keeper on Apr 6, 2024 16:22:54 GMT -5
Makes sense. Ufa always has drama and Alan being back for another year could rub some the wrong way. Gsa always has drama and AFU has been very good lately about recruiting them over. Especially if Gsa has a couple on to bench who think they deserve to start. And Eddie with Platinum at CF is always a toss up, either love him or hate him.
My bet is a lot of talk but no many put their money where their mouth is.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 31, 2024 18:01:09 GMT -5
Steve Hobart and Pat Staunton currently have the top two teams so they’d be potential coaches for ECNL Platinum and Premier and the ones to start with. Definitely don’t wait till tryouts to reach out as both teams will probably be set by the time tryouts begin.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 29, 2024 16:24:26 GMT -5
Inter with ECNL? Not a chance and not even in their radar with them sticking with NL, DPL, NAL and hopes of MLSNext again. Atlanta can’t support anymore competitive ECNL teams.
Boys ECNL will probably move to the 8 home, 8 away for Fall and with spring doing half that. Expect another showcase requirement to be added though.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 28, 2024 5:54:36 GMT -5
I think it's annoying and it mostly does not help. Either parents yell the obvious "SHOOT!" and they often distract players so that they make a mistake. Or they yell things that are wrong, like "dribble!" when passing would have been better. I got annoyed at another mom for yelling to my kid recently. "Talk, one of you!" when I had told my kid not to not hesitate, that it's better to go for the ball than not when you're not sure what your team mate is doing and there's no time to "talk". I try to not coach from the sideline, but yeah sometimes I can't help saying something like "RUN!". But I often cheer and say things like nice pass! Nothing wrong with saying RUN!! LOL Except when the coach has told them not to. Maybe the coach is slowing the game down. Maybe they don’t have subs. Maybe someone is injured and can’t run like that. Lots of other reasons too so just don’t coach from the sideline. And never ever ever yell for a kid to shoot, that’s joystick coaching 101.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 15, 2024 16:15:55 GMT -5
I don't recall the exact rule, but I believe it is over the summer. Meaning, High School coaches can work with players over the summer, but as soon as school starts again in August, they are not allowed to be working with their players...as Club Coaches or in Private Sessions. Are there any Chamblee girls parents here who can clarify the exact rule? The exact rule from ghsa, 2.69 (c) A GHSA coach (certified teacher or community coach) may not coach a non-GHSA team in a competitive setting during the school year that includes any player(s) who participate in the sport he/she coaches at the member school. EXCEPTION: In a situation in which the child or step-child of the coach is the only player on a non-school team from the coach’s school, the coach would be exempted from this rule. This rule states if a soccer coach is on the staff at a member high school (head, assistant, or lay coach) and coached club soccer in the fall, that coach can’t coach ANY player, male or female on any club team and that is also in the soccer program at your high school, INCLUDING THE OPPOSITE GENDER TEAM. www.ghsa.net/reminder-soccer-coaching-restrictions
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Post by Keeper on Mar 14, 2024 19:26:12 GMT -5
Expect Gsa 2010 ECNL and RL to get new Coaches as Judson and Chad have had those groups since U12s and will probably take the 2012s.
Concorde 2010 ECNL Platinum should be keeping Eddie H, the RL Platinum will be getting a new coach. Premier side, Mark C should be keeping the ECNL 2010s and the RL team out of South just got a new coach as of January so doubt that changes.
Concorde 09s John will probably have to drop the ECNL Platinum due to coaching at AIS. Ecnl Premier and RL Platinum look to be keeping Brian and Rivah.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 6, 2024 21:31:50 GMT -5
Not that I’ve ever heard. Gregg and Ken’s egos are so high they don’t care who’s added. GB isn’t leaving? Thought his days were done. He owns the club. Why would he leave?
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Post by Keeper on Mar 6, 2024 10:13:49 GMT -5
Yes the territorial veto’s were taken away last year as historically GSA has vetoed all ECNL/RL expansion in the Metro. Has Concorde also vetoed expansion historically? Not that I’ve ever heard. Gregg and Ken’s egos are so high they don’t care who’s added.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 5, 2024 15:04:44 GMT -5
There will always be GA clubs in play for ECNL...this is not a knock on GA. As has been mentioned numerous times, GA has some very good clubs that would compete with the best of ECNL. TH has applied for Girls ECNL every year since they lost DA, but the rumblings are that there are a number of people on the ECNL board that do not want TH for various political reasons. TH was in ECNL before DA and it took them 2-3 years of applying before getting in the first time. Once DA came around, TH (TG) treated ECNL as a 2nd tier league and TG put his focus on DA. This still ruffles some the wrong way. The other interesting dynamic is that TH/NASA has ECNL on the boys side, but that has not been able to influence the higher ups at ECNL. "IF" TH was ever approved for Girls ECNL, I seriously doubt ECNL would give them 2 teams....like they have in GA. Debate all you want, but this rumors comes up every year.....FTR I could care less about leagues and enjoy watching TH, CF, UFA, and other teams play and have for many years. What I want to see is the top talent in the Atlanta area play each other....TH vs CF, UFA, or GSA.... these matches back in the ECNL and/or DA days were some of the best at all age groups u14-u18.....whatever format, please bring that back for the good of the girls game.... One of the other rumors is that ECNL leadership has stopped letting current clubs block other clubs from joining if it benefits them. Meaning it used to require a vote from all existing local clubs in a regional league before new clubs were let in. Often clubs would work together to keep certain clubs out if it was to their benefit. Not sure how this would actually be implemented unless members voting on new members was done away with. Yes the territorial veto’s were taken away last year as historically GSA has vetoed all ECNL/RL expansion in the Metro.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 21, 2024 20:58:42 GMT -5
Bro..not as seasoned as you. Good on ya. But I think you missed my point with what is happening moving forward with leagues. I never said SCCL was competitive with GA. Rather, I said neither GA nor SCCL was competitive with ECNL. GA is not the premiere destination for top players that it (or DA) once was. Look at tophat, for example, and their younger teams vs their older teams. Their younger teams do not draw anything close to the level of talent they once did: ie every top player wanted to play there in the past. That is not the case anymore and it's a clear trend. Now, you may argue that this is an issue stemming from the club per se, but the recent moves of other GA top clubs to ECNL tells the story. So, that leaves GA in a spot where it's no longer competing with ECNL but is still charging like a top academy all while brining in inferior clubs. Which makes SCCL an appealing choice. I get it that parents/coaches who have been in the forest of Georgia/US soccer have a hard time seeing the forest, but for parents looking for an alternative to ECNL, SCCL makes way more sense now compared to a couple of weeks ago even Really? Tophat 11 gold just beat GSA 11 ECNL and CF Plat 11 ECNL in a tourney this past weekend. As well as CESA ECNL. Doesn’t seem like they have a talent issue. True that 2011 Tophat team beat those ECNL teams in a preseason event where I believe two of those head coaches were in Dallas. It’s also true that that Tophat team is barely folding on as they are starting to crumble under the constant pressure and berating from Ted C. Just go look at how the 2010s are doing. So we’ll see how that talent looks in a year or two or like most older Tophat teams the burnout gets them.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 9, 2024 15:36:30 GMT -5
Why on earth would Nasa and Concorde drop and play in a lower level league then ECNL. Maybe for the their second teams. Nationally MLS Next is considered a higher level league than ECNL for boys. This is primarily because MLS Academies play in MLS Next. Hahahahaha!!! I guess Friday happy hour has already started. “Considered a higher level league than ECNL” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Keeper on Feb 9, 2024 13:33:16 GMT -5
NASA and Concord will soon be in MLS Next then the opinions on this forum will change Why on earth would Nasa and Concorde drop and play in a lower level league then ECNL. Maybe for the their second teams.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 6, 2024 22:32:27 GMT -5
Final? And yeah Walton is (always) stacked with high level players so there are always disappointments. 4-1 final
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Post by Keeper on Feb 6, 2024 20:45:25 GMT -5
Johns Creek is stacked with ECNL players on all three teams. Centennial has a couple quality ones but no where near the same depth. Not familiar with Alpharetta. Johns Creek gets Walton tonight, it will be interesting to see how those two really good teams stack up. Fair to note these are for the most part early season so you never know how teams are affected by injuries/illness or just uncertainty in positions. Well JC is dominating Walton at half. Should be 3-0 but a bad call from the turf monster, not a player, leads to a Walton PK to get on the board. Still a 2nd half to play but it’s not looking good for the east Cobb snobs. Heard Walton coach made some very questionable cuts of high level nasa ECNL players so it may be coming back to bite him in the arse.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 3, 2024 18:57:03 GMT -5
Told by multiple parents today the whole club has folded and all teams disbanded. It’s a nightmare as families are scrambling to find a spring team and with SCCL already set for spring whole teams will be completely split up.
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Post by Keeper on Feb 3, 2024 18:55:01 GMT -5
Johns Creek is stacked with ECNL players on all three teams. Centennial has a couple quality ones but no where near the same depth. Not familiar with Alpharetta.
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Post by Keeper on Jan 26, 2024 15:27:24 GMT -5
Hasn’t Lakepoint always charged for parking on these events weekend? I know they did the first year or two they were open.
Just look at it as a convenience fee for not having to go deal with Braly. 🤣
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Post by Keeper on Jan 15, 2024 10:34:31 GMT -5
Las time I looked the only rule was that players couldn't play 2 ECNL/RL games in the same day. Meaning you could run an ECNL Pool of both NL and RL players and pick who plays each day. But I don't know if there's some kind of special restriction for GA or ECNL clubs with 2 GA or 2 ECNL teams from running a single pool. The way the rosters work, and I'll use ECNL as the operating example (though it's effectively the same with GA/DPL,) is that a player can be rostered on ecnlR and brought up to ECNL, but an ECNL rostered player cannot play down on an ecnlR team. So, if you were to pool in that sense, a player who is rostered on ecnl could not be dropped to ecnlR. As for the example of concorde with 2 ECNL teams, pool wouldn't work in that example because premiere is a singular ECNL team with a roster, and platinum is a singular ECNL team with a roster. ECNL players cannot be rostered on 2 ECNL teams simultaneously. So you can't move a player from premiere to platinum for one game or move a player from platinum to premium either. It would be no different that moving a premiere player to play with the GSA team for a game. All of this is assuming league play. Non ecnl Tournies, friendlies etc outside of league play are not governed by those rules If a team manager or rules savant can confirm this (for both ecnl and ga) i'd love it Wrong on one part, an ECNL player (rostered on that team) can play down with the RL team anytime as long as they follow the one game a day rule. This has been done multiple times by AFU, Gsa and CF. Especially for players coming back from injury and GKs.
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Post by Keeper on Jan 15, 2024 10:28:49 GMT -5
Players can’t move between ECNL Platinum and Premier because they’re in the same league. At some age groups ECNL Platinum coaches might convince a player or two that didn’t make their team to play on the ECRL Platinum team so they can move to ECNL Platinum if needed but that’s rare. This is actually wrong now. Players can move between Premier and Platinum now, and did so quite a bit on the Girls side.
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