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Post by infoguy on Feb 14, 2018 10:29:03 GMT -5
I understand the question, and the importance for some to mark on their player resume that he/she made varsity as a freshman. Or, I understand that your question may be more about your concern that he/she plays for a competitive high school team if you forgo DA.
The question should be, in my opinion, does your child want to play for her/his high school? The reason why the question shouldn't be more specific to Varsity vs JV, is because (like many have answered) it depends on the high school whether your kid makes the Varsity right off the bat or not. And if it's a tough or not guaranteed that your child will make Varsity as a freshman, that's a good thing because he/she goes to a school with a good soccer program. I think what's worse is making Varsity at a school with a poor program.
In other words, if he/she attends a large high school and doesn't make Varsity, then odds are the JV should also be competitive. And if it turns out to be JV, your kid will likely be pulled up at the end of the JV season to Varsity (season longer because of playoffs).
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Post by infoguy on Feb 7, 2018 9:50:33 GMT -5
What makes folks think that next year will be the year when clubs must choose between ECNL and DA?
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Post by infoguy on Jan 26, 2018 9:15:08 GMT -5
For those with HS kids that tried out/are playing soccer for their schools: Do any of your respective high schools NOT allow Juniors to play on the JV soccer team? If that's the case, please let me know which school by replying here - or PM me if you are more comfortable doing so.
Thanks,
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Post by infoguy on Jan 18, 2018 10:34:46 GMT -5
Good article, Rifle I have so many thoughts. Not sure I agree with everything Rothenberg said, based on my personal experience, including my kid playing in the same division as Alianza teams and also helping subsidize some Mexican players to be a part of our club. And for some club teams, the overwhelming majority of their players are hispanic. Seems like clubs with training centers in major cities are not turning away Mexican players... and there are training centers located in areas with very high hispanic populations. Not sure why Rothenberg feels we need to build training centers elsewhere (in other words, for Georgia/Metro Atlanta, tell me a highly concentrated Mexican population, and I can name a club that would be happy to take any good player).
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Post by infoguy on Jan 8, 2018 8:04:38 GMT -5
First real tournament/showcase that we've attended, and more focus now on older ages as strictly a showcase. I've been to countless tournaments, and I actually saw college coaches for the first time at Disney. Given the thousands of dollars spent on wannabee tournaments/showcases, it was well worth the extra money for Disney. We are all already neck deep in costs, what's a few hundred more for something that is actually real/worthwhile in terms of exposure?
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Post by infoguy on Jan 4, 2018 8:17:43 GMT -5
I scanned the college coaches listed on the web site, and it doesn't seem that many D1 programs attended the ECNL boys showcase. What do you base that on? 29 by my count 29 of the top 25 D1 schools were there? Not sure how that's possible ;-) I counted 99 D1 schools in attendance at Disney on the boys' side.
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Post by infoguy on Jan 3, 2018 13:57:44 GMT -5
The boys ECNL showcase was fairly well organized (from a recruiting/college coach perspective). Overall I'd say level of play was a little better than the level at Disney this year, and not coincidentally there were more of the top 25 D1 programs in attendance than there were at Disney. I scanned the college coaches listed on the web site, and it doesn't seem that many D1 programs attended the ECNL boys showcase. What do you base that on?
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Post by infoguy on Nov 22, 2017 8:59:59 GMT -5
My daughter was on the winning end of 2 games against Coastal Carolina. U18 Athena C is is the lowest bracket. Whatever the lowest bracket, CC are it. Unfortunately for Coastal Carolina, C is the lowest.
Important to note, Coastal Carolina's mission is more to provide support for the players who are disadvantaged - rec ball would be appropriate for their skill level. But, rec apparently doesn't offer the social experience they were seeking through travel ball.
Here's their "about us" summary:
"The Coastal Outreach Soccer Program is a coordinated effort involving the Glynn County School System, Brunswick Recreation Department, and local certified coaches. COS was founded in 2004 with 15 players from the Head Start program. By 2005 the program was providing activities for 60 youth annually. COS started as in-house recreational level soccer program with 1st generation soccer players and coaches. Today the program has teams who have won Georgia Recreational and Parks District Titles in 2011 and 2012. Teams are now playing at the competitive level against clubs with more resources and larger player pool. Despite these odds, COS teams are very competitive and attract the attention of spectators as they travel in South Georgia and North Florida. Because COS is 1 out of 121 soccer clubs, who membership is underserved and under privilege youth."
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Post by infoguy on Oct 31, 2017 12:57:36 GMT -5
Doubt it, they have their own showcases.
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Post by infoguy on Oct 12, 2017 6:52:41 GMT -5
It's amazing how many schools of thought are out there (here, FB, etc.), to explain the USMNT's poor showing. My pain is starting to subside a bit, and let's not forget there's no Chile, and Argentina (for instance) was almost knocked out of it. Chile, as a nation for instance, will punish some people, but doesn't necessarily need to revamp what it's doing - look who they have on their national team for God sakes.
Is there something wrong with development? I believe that major clubs in Atlanta have talented coaches for their top teams, primarily non-Americans (no offense to some outstanding American coaches that I know). As players age, these coaches aren't accepting just anyone, believe me. There are different styles, yes, let the right style win out and attract the talent. It's happening.
Is the pay-to-play system a cause? Maybe, but at the end of the day, using CF or UFA as an example, look at their teams' success in the state of GA. If they are doing it wrong, let a club that does it different (for some, the right way) knock them off their thrones.
Are the best athletes going to other sports? Yes, there are great athletes playing other sports. But the sheer number of boys playing soccer, we have a huge pool of players to draw from in state, regionally and as a nation. The sport of soccer is better for the majority of boys and girls - look what Lacrosse has done. It's stealing players from baseball and football. The great sport of soccer will take care of that as well, which we are seeing IMO.
This all to say, I think we had the wrong coach and leadership this time around, folks.
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Post by infoguy on Oct 11, 2017 13:37:11 GMT -5
Maybe we can measure U.S. Soccer success by the number of Americans in La Liga, Bundesliga, Premier League, et al in Europe?
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Post by infoguy on Oct 11, 2017 8:26:47 GMT -5
It's a fine mess. All points well made above.
Hard to watch my son's disappointment last night. He still loves the game. But, it's hard for me also to avoid thinking that we are all just spinning our wheels here.
I'm tired of the parent vs. club blame game ("pay to play", blah blah blah). While coaches and clubs have to put up with the AMERICAN-WIN-WIN mentality, some of us parents are innocently trying to navigate the system that allowed all of these leagues, levels, etc.
It's time for the USSF to place a tourniquet on USSDA, reduce/control the number of teams so it will actually accomplish its mission. And honestly, ODP should cherry pick from the USSDA player pool. Everything else should be intra state soccer.
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Post by infoguy on Sept 13, 2017 8:57:38 GMT -5
S FL teams' games in Charleston, for our age group, are postponed. Both our games are on, including one against a N FL team.
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Post by infoguy on Sept 12, 2017 12:18:59 GMT -5
There's just NO WAY!
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Post by infoguy on Sept 11, 2017 6:57:20 GMT -5
SRPL didn't send an email to our team manager about the reschedule. Another parent and I brought it up in conversation, and the team manager was like "what"?
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Post by infoguy on Aug 28, 2017 7:17:36 GMT -5
alacrity174 Video is not an ECNL requirement. ***GB is not on the board, I confused him with Troy Garner... how I do not know. I think what I have discovered is Georgia is to blame for our weird youth soccer landscape. Reading around different blogs on the webbernets I think some state soccer orgs mandated to not cross the streams. If I remember Arizona may be one of those places. Do you mean for clubs not to have every league? Like CF has RPL, ECNL and DA...
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Post by infoguy on Aug 21, 2017 7:06:09 GMT -5
All these leagues available for our kids, I'm generally OK with it.
I think it becomes an issue when a club has all leagues. If your club applies for ECNL/ENPL, and the top team plays in that league, then the club shouldn't retain a spot in SRPL (unless you have the players at that level to field a team). I heard that DA doesn't favor the clubs that already have ECNL/ENPL, when considering which clubs to add to the league. Makes sense, they want that club's non-diluted best.
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Post by infoguy on Aug 14, 2017 8:05:41 GMT -5
Yes and yes, if you ask my daughter.
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Post by infoguy on Jul 31, 2017 8:40:30 GMT -5
Has US Soccer posted online the fall schedule? I haven't seen one, just seeing if it has been distributed.
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Post by infoguy on Jul 26, 2017 6:33:11 GMT -5
So, it seems that the clubs that have ENPL also retain their RPL slots. Can someone explain how the heck they were able to do so, assuming that USYS would require a certain level of player for RPL, if most RPL players from last year's team are on the club's ENPL team?
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Post by infoguy on Jul 19, 2017 11:40:21 GMT -5
So, in my son's case, we are doing both RPL and NPL. It's supposed to be simultaneous, but I haven't even seen the RPL schedule yet - which would be a feat in itself.
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Post by infoguy on Jul 13, 2017 11:11:54 GMT -5
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Post by infoguy on Jul 13, 2017 8:17:58 GMT -5
This is what happens when you have all these leagues. Make the right choice for your kid.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 14, 2017 20:09:59 GMT -5
It impacted some teams, yes - but if ur kid is a good player, then that's the bottom line. Not sure how the age mandate would affect their strength on a team.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 12, 2017 6:48:20 GMT -5
They post them, but even today I wouldn't trust them to be accurate.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 10, 2017 10:30:56 GMT -5
Is it going to exist next year for the older ages?
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Post by infoguy on Jun 8, 2017 13:29:51 GMT -5
I will say these advertisements are fairly accurate in my experience.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 7, 2017 11:57:35 GMT -5
No difference. The S just specifies the southern region. So if RPL and SRPL are the same thing, that mean's spectator's hierarchy of youth soccer is this: 1. Top Team - DA 2. Second Team - ECNL/ENPL 3. Third Team - SRPL 4. Fourth Team - Classic 1/Athena A 5. Fifth Team - Classic 2/Athena B and so on down the scale Please correct me if I'm wrong. So, I think it's important for us to understand, so that our boys understand, the only formal hierarchy listed above are items 3-5. Items 1 - 3 represent different leagues, and on any given day, a club's top team can beat another club's top team. DA is a bit more obvious, but again, any given day. I did hear that clubs won't be allowed to carry both DA and ECNL/ENPL moving forward.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 7, 2017 11:08:39 GMT -5
Still don't understand how CF pulls it off. Those fields at Central, when not wet, are still not great.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 7, 2017 10:49:15 GMT -5
Since the question was asked, here's my understanding:
To call the Premier Division "SRPL" or "SPL" and First Division "RPL" is technically wrong, although I know what people mean when they say it.
SRPL is USYS Region 3 (Southern Regional Premier League) - some say R3PL, which I think was used at some point in the past to abbreviate Region 3. There are SRPL sub-regions, and we are East. East has 2 divisions: Premier and First.
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